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Automated transcript of StressLess Camping RV podcast episode 252
Mark Ferrell
Welcome to the weekly podcast all about turning the great American RV adventure into stress less camping. Each week, we explore tips, tricks, ideas, and destinations, and talk to the happiest campers in the RV world. Pull up a seat at the campfire as we enjoy some stress less camping.
Peggy Barthel
Welcome to Texas. Yeehaw. I'm Tony. I'm Peggy.
Tony Barthel
And we're 2 RV industry veterans who travel part time
Peggy Barthel
Get in a small trailer.
Tony Barthel
Looking to share big adventures and help you with great tips
Peggy Barthel
Tricks.
Tony Barthel
And discounts.
Peggy Barthel
And today, we have a bunch of tricksters, tipsters, come in that are gonna help us. We are at a mini light rally. As you know, we own a mini light. Yeah. And we are here with a bunch of mini light, micro light owners and we thought, hey, as long as we have all these experts here in a group, we might as well pick their brains and find out what they know.
Tony Barthel
You know, we may sound like we know what we're talking about, but we're not so sure. But we have people here who do a lot of traveling, have been a lot of places, and have really good taste in RVs. So we thought we'd get some good ideas that we can share with all of you out there.
Peggy Barthel
So first, I know I've talked to a lot of you about what you have. Who has the oldest mini light that's still here?
Speaker 4
Susan. Susan. I think so.
Tony Barthel
Yeah. See, I told you not to sit off camera. Come on up front so we can
Peggy Barthel
Come and tell us what you what you have.
Tony Barthel
Oh, I like your shot glass on a necklace.
Speaker 4
There's a story behind this.
Tony Barthel
Oh, that's good too. Excellent.
Speaker 4
So we have a 2015, 2104 s. We are the original owners and have loved every minute of it. It's been a lot of fun. During the height of COVID, I was going through chemotherapy, and it was our hotel when I had to travel
Peggy Barthel
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 4
To Houston to go for treatment, and, you know, it was our safe place to stay. So, uh, it it's it's getting up there, but I have a really soft spot in my heart.
Tony Barthel
Absolutely. Well, and it's held up well and done well for you too. Yeah. Yeah. So they're they're great campers.
Tony Barthel
Wait. Wait. I wanna hear the shot glass story. As
Peggy Barthel
long as you're here.
Speaker 5
She has
Tony Barthel
by the way, for those of you okay. 2 things. This is the first of we are now gonna go video every week. We make that commitment to you. Uh, and second, for those of you who are listening on the audio podcast, she has a what looks like a little oh, it's a whole
Peggy Barthel
fly bright.
Tony Barthel
Short glass. And it's got you got blue and white ribbons on it. So that's from Oktoberfest.
Speaker 4
That way. It did. It is from Munich. So every year at the end of this rally, when we're sitting around, we talk about, well, what we wanna do different next time? What might we do?
Speaker 4
Several years ago was the first time I think we did the camper crawl, and me being the shy retiring person that I am suggested, you know what we should do is we should do a shot crawl. So we should go do the do the camper crawl, but each camper has a different shot and shot glasses. Well, apparently me and these 2 were the only people who thought that was a good idea. So that never came to fruition, but Nell and Dan thought this was, uh, a really good idea and they have a son in Germany and she got on the horn with him and said I need shot glasses. And this is the first time we've been back together since that conversation happened and so they brought us these as gifts.
Speaker 4
They are and apparently you can go to something like a a beer crawl or a Wasserl crawl where you go from place to place, and they will fill your shot glass, and you can take your shot Nice. On. So that's what it's
Speaker 6
supposed to do.
Tony Barthel
Like, uh, that sounds awesome.
Peggy Barthel
Yeah.
Speaker 4
Yeah.
Tony Barthel
So we were at we were in the hoofae. It was 22.
Peggy Barthel
20 2003. 04 o 4. Yeah.
Speaker 5
2,004. 20 years ago.
Peggy Barthel
20 years ago.
Tony Barthel
And I wanted to hear that song in Minchin State on Hofbrauhaus, and €15 is what they're they're so sick of playing it
Peggy Barthel
in there.
Tony Barthel
It was €15 to hear, but I paid it.
Speaker 7
So
Speaker 4
Yeah. Good. So that's the story.
Peggy Barthel
Actually, thank you. Hey, Susan.
Tony Barthel
So who
Peggy Barthel
has put the most miles? Well, okay, you have to be excluded now or you're gonna be up here all the time. No. I've never Who's put the most miles on? Or who wants to tell us about some big epic long adventure you went on?
Tony Barthel
I saw so many
Speaker 7
light that came in here late, that has got 100 stickers on the
Speaker 6
back of
Peggy Barthel
the house. A 100 stickers on the back.
Speaker 4
Yeah. Now the Johnson's would take that away. They would. Okay.
Tony Barthel
You have been doing this rally for 8 years now.
Speaker 8
This is like something like that. Yeah.
Speaker 6
8 years.
Speaker 8
Different variations of camping.
Peggy Barthel
Yeah.
Tony Barthel
But 8 years now. And last year, it hailed like the Dickens.
Speaker 7
Oh, yeah. Oh, boy.
Speaker 8
Yeah. So big time.
Peggy Barthel
And that was hard to believe yesterday when we got here and it was a 100.
Tony Barthel
Yeah. Although today is not Today
Peggy Barthel
is much nicer.
Speaker 8
That was the 4th hottest April 18th injunction in history.
Peggy Barthel
Oh, boy. Okay. What about
Speaker 5
We came from the farthest.
Tony Barthel
Who came from
Peggy Barthel
Who came the farthest to get here?
Speaker 8
Don. I imagine Don
Peggy Barthel
and Nell. Don and Nell?
Speaker 9
We live in Arizona.
Tony Barthel
Arizona. Oh, yeah. You beat us.
Peggy Barthel
Yep. I mean, technically we came the farthest because we went
Speaker 8
Oh, yeah.
Peggy Barthel
From New Mexico to Louisiana to Kansas to get here. Right. But we don't have the longest drive home. How's that?
Speaker 5
Right. Yeah, you guys do.
Tony Barthel
And how much travel do you do in a year?
Speaker 5
Nell, we need to see you.
Speaker 7
Oh, here
Tony Barthel
it comes. And she's wearing red. We're recording this on a Friday, and normally we would be wearing red also.
Peggy Barthel
We don't have any reds. Everybody to play. Stressless.
Tony Barthel
I don't have a rock Woods shirt in red
Speaker 9
or a
Tony Barthel
stressless shirt.
Speaker 9
Get one. Yeah. Because we remember everyone deploying.
Peggy Barthel
That's right.
Speaker 6
That's right.
Tony Barthel
Every Friday.
Speaker 9
My aged mother lives at my house, which means we don't get to travel as much as we would like. So this is our big trip every year, except last year because he was ill, and we could not. But before that, we would travel short distances, but often. We used to have the same camper she has, 2104 2015, that we bought new on our way from moving from Georgia to Arizona.
Peggy Barthel
Okay.
Speaker 9
But we'd already had a trailer in Arizona. We just kind of fell in love with mini light, so we gotta do it.
Tony Barthel
Sounds good.
Peggy Barthel
Yeah. Some people stopped for brisket sandwich, you stopped and bought a mini light. Yeah. There you go. They had
Speaker 9
all the models it for 2 years, and I got to choose whichever one I want.
Speaker 5
Oh, that's good.
Tony Barthel
So how did everyone decide on a mini light? Were a lot of them
Speaker 9
used to Murphy bed shows.
Peggy Barthel
You wanted a Murphy bed.
Tony Barthel
RV shows. RV shows. Interesting.
Speaker 7
I tell you how I decided on ours. Okay.
Mark Ferrell0
Thank you.
Speaker 7
That's it.
Speaker 8
Well, we narrowed it down. I've I've looked at him for we had a casita, and we went to this RV show on Tony and Linda.
Speaker 7
And I did the research before going. I narrowed it down
Speaker 8
to mini light and a lance. And, uh, that's what I wanted to look at while I was there. So I went there and they
Speaker 7
had we had 2104s. That's what
Speaker 8
we were looking at. And the Lance, whatever the Lance was, went in went in the Lance. The Lance is more expensive, obviously, to start with. Lower ceiling, a flat ceiling, and it just doesn't seem as homey. And we went into the 2104 s.
Speaker 8
The salesman was in there with 7 or 8 other people.
Tony Barthel
Wow. Oh,
Speaker 8
man. This 2 104 s. I said, if he can do that, that's what I want.
Peggy Barthel
Yeah.
Speaker 8
And so we left. Next week, I called him. That's what I want, that exact model there because it was had it everything. It had well, I can't show you that one. I don't want that one.
Tony Barthel
I want a new one.
Speaker 5
Yeah. On it.
Peggy Barthel
I want that hasn't had 7 people partying in.
Speaker 8
That's why really, that's why I bought it. But but the slide out and the couch in there, that many people inside that little thing like that. Oh, yeah. Why not?
Peggy Barthel
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5
With the Murphy bed.
Speaker 8
And with the Murphy bed, that's that was a seller there. So we got it and they got one and journeyed on.
Tony Barthel
Excellent. So our story so we had this Jayco pop up trailer, and we bought it. A friend of ours was getting a divorce, and the husband told the wife, whatever you get for it, just split with me. So we bought a Jayco pop up trailer for $500, But it was it had seen better days, but we wanted something also with a Murphy bed, and we wanted something a little bit nicer. And for a year, Peggy and I stopped at so many RV dealerships.
Peggy Barthel
Let's say, like 4 years.
Tony Barthel
Yeah. Was it that long?
Peggy Barthel
Before we so we owned a bed and breakfast. We had the pop up, we sold the pop up, bought a bed and breakfast, And for like 3 years, we kinda talked about selling the bed and breakfast. So all that time, every time we were on the road and we saw a dealership and we had an extra half hour, we'd stop and look at trailers. And then after the bed and breakfast sold, then for about the year after that every time we were on the road we'd stop and look at trailers. And we finally found the mini well to be honest we had decided on an R Pod.
Tony Barthel
Or we were at least going there to look
Peggy Barthel
for what
Speaker 6
we wanted. We had got
Peggy Barthel
what we wanted was an R Pod, and we went to the dealership and the man said well now now wait, if you like the R Pod let me show you this. And we walked in the it was a 1905 s, No slide, murphy bed, single axle. They don't even make them that little anymore at Mini Light. And we walked in and said you're right, this is absolutely the one. We saw it for 4 minutes and we were hooked.
Speaker 7
Yep. Yeah.
Peggy Barthel
And the things that we wouldn't have liked about the R Pod that we didn't realize we wouldn't like was the, like, east to west bed. Yeah. And the it was just it was so squishy and
Speaker 8
Well, that's kinda how we got really what motivated me to go to Biggers. We had a casita. We love the casita, but spend a rainy weekend in them. I just like living in your walk in closet for a weekend.
Peggy Barthel
Yeah. So
Speaker 8
I said, do bigger.
Tony Barthel
And I was surprised, we were driving through Texas to get to Texas, and I saw the casita factory.
Speaker 8
Yeah. Oh, rice.
Speaker 5
Rice, Texas.
Tony Barthel
Yeah. They're made right there.
Speaker 6
If I
Tony Barthel
had known, I'd stopped and watched them make them.
Speaker 5
Yep.
Tony Barthel
Yeah. So that was pretty cool.
Peggy Barthel
They're very well made.
Tony Barthel
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Those fiberglass egg trailers are pretty neat.
Speaker 7
Oh, they are.
Tony Barthel
Did you ever go to a fiberglass, like, a egg trailer rally? No. No? Those, I've been told they're fun.
Speaker 5
Well, we had a casita rally here before before we
Peggy Barthel
had the mini light. Before the mini light rally?
Mark Ferrell0
Mike or
Mark Ferrell1
light. Yeah. Yeah.
Tony Barthel
So I wanna hear about the toilet paper contraptions.
Speaker 8
Tony? Tony?
Mark Ferrell2
Tony? Toilet paper thing.
Mark Ferrell0
So we got we went to the RV show at AT and T Stadium, and of course we started with the vendors, and the first vendor we went to, he's got a cabinet door on a stand and there's a slot in it and through that slot is toilet paper and we were like, what's this? And so, he he developed this mechanism that you cut a slot in the door, then this piece fits in that slot, and it's got a flange on the backside that holds it tight with a toilet paper holder. And, you just set the toilet paper on there and then he gives you a little thin piece of plastic that you put through the slot
Peggy Barthel
Feed it?
Mark Ferrell0
Hook the toilet paper on to pull it out. And then when you shut the cabinet door, you don't see the toilet paper holder. All you see is a sheet of toilet paper sticking through the door.
Tony Barthel
Kinda like sticking its tongue out of
Speaker 4
that shit.
Speaker 7
Yeah. It is.
Mark Ferrell0
It's cool. When you haven't got room in the bathroom I
Peggy Barthel
gotta see that.
Mark Ferrell0
It's Yeah. It is neat. Yeah.
Tony Barthel
That we have to we have to see that.
Speaker 7
Yeah. That's something you gotta you can't visualize until you really see the whole thing. Easy.
Tony Barthel
Yeah. And both of you guys bought them. Right?
Speaker 8
Not me.
Tony Barthel
Not you. No. You can't take
Mark Ferrell0
it. Maybe all of 15 minutes to install it. I mean, they give you template, right, and instructions. Put the template on the door and use a pencil to go around the template, and then drill a couple of holes and use your jigsaw.
Peggy Barthel
Just cut your slot.
Mark Ferrell0
Cut it out, sand it off, and stick it on. 15 minutes, and I was done. She couldn't believe it. Her hands were shaking when
Speaker 9
I was cutting the door.
Speaker 5
Yeah. Right?
Tony Barthel
That'd be
Mark Ferrell0
my problem. But, uh, we were his first two customers. He he had just brought it to market. And Fred and I were like, yeah. We'll buy that.
Mark Ferrell0
He took our picture and said, y'all are
Speaker 5
my first too. Alright. Do you
Tony Barthel
have to remember the name of that thing?
Mark Ferrell0
No. But Fred will.
Tony Barthel
Okay. Now, on the same subject, I know you said don't pick you out, but, man, I love your idea about the way you've also done toilet paper. My name is Aaron.
Mark Ferrell1
Uh, we're from Seguin, Texas, and we are very new, uh, with, uh, Rockwood Mini Lights. And we were this is, I think, our 6th trip out in it. We were looking at the, uh, TP situation in the bathroom, where to put it to keep it from getting wet, those kinds of things. I noticed the, uh, flip down door underneath the sink. It seemed like a perfect place to have some type of dispensing going on, but whose roll fits in there.
Mark Ferrell1
So I just changed the size of my roll. I took an electric, uh, drill with a number 2 pencil or a dowel rod and just, uh, resize customized my, uh, roll size. I set it in that, uh, drawer where it feeds off the bottom, comes over and then through the handle, and I didn't have to cut a slot in my
Speaker 7
door. Oh, man.
Speaker 5
We could put 2 rolls Yeah.
Mark Ferrell1
2 mini rolls. And you
Tony Barthel
reroll. You make a roll with the drill. Yes.
Speaker 8
Yeah. Yeah.
Tony Barthel
So that's pretty pictures. Yeah. I yeah. I saw the picture. It's pretty fantastic.
Speaker 4
So you rerolled your toilet?
Mark Ferrell1
Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 6
Yeah.
Speaker 5
Just a smaller roll.
Speaker 6
Just a smaller roll.
Mark Ferrell1
Dow rolled. Dow rolled. Just sat there in the living room.
Peggy Barthel
I made
Speaker 6
about 10
Mark Ferrell1
per trip.
Speaker 4
And you thread on a bobbin.
Peggy Barthel
Yeah. It's
Mark Ferrell0
all it's
Mark Ferrell1
exactly what it is. Like refilling a bobbin on a on a on a sewing machine is
Speaker 7
all it is.
Mark Ferrell1
Except you're getting rid of all that empty space in the middle.
Peggy Barthel
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Tony Barthel
So 2 good toilet paper ideas.
Peggy Barthel
Any other clever toilet paper hacks before we move out of the bathroom?
Mark Ferrell2
Move on to somewhere else.
Peggy Barthel
Somewhere else.
Tony Barthel
Maybe a better room. Any other good hacks that you guys have done or?
Peggy Barthel
Little minor modifications, great big modifications.
Speaker 4
On the the 2104 s, and I think a lot of of us have the the, um, the rail on the outside where you can hook the cable on. Uh-huh. Mhmm. Okay. Ours is so old old that there was no you know, they're they're they now have, like, a a peninsula in the 21 04 s in the kitchen or, uh, and I've seen some folks have actually built a little onto the counter just to the left of the stove.
Speaker 4
Mhmm. What I did is went on trusty Amazon and bought another piece of that rail. We had to cut it to length, but we mounted it just on the side of the cabinet just to your left as you come in the door right by the stove. Now it you can get in and out with that there in place, but that's not what it's for. It's for at night when we're setting up the PC to hook up to the TV to watch our movies.
Speaker 4
We can put that there. You can set that. Also, um, if I'm cooking, I can move my coffee maker from off the counter to this little thing here and still use the
Peggy Barthel
Out of the way. Surface.
Speaker 4
Yeah. So we've we've really enjoyed having that that little option.
Mark Ferrell0
Don, you did a a pop up shelf as well.
Speaker 7
Yeah. Yeah. Yep.
Speaker 8
Not a shelf, but a outlet.
Mark Ferrell0
Didn't you? Yep. Didn't you add a pop up shelf at the end of your cabinet? Yeah.
Speaker 7
Yes. Oh, yeah. Right.
Peggy Barthel
Yep. But you can actually leave yours. Right? We did that in the 1905, that just reminded me because Oh, yeah. We had couple inches of counter space in the 1905.
Peggy Barthel
So we got some of that rail and put it on the end. But because of the Murphy bed, Tony wouldn't have been able to get out of bed unless we took that table off at night and moved it out of the way. It's a really tight squeeze there at the foot of the bed. So you did a similar thing?
Speaker 6
I think I
Speaker 8
can tell you about his, uh, recliner mod.
Speaker 5
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Alright.
Speaker 8
What mod? Your recliners. And what you did Oh, yeah. I have
Speaker 9
a recliner too.
Mark Ferrell2
Name is Don. We have a 250 0 4 s and which we brought 2 years ago. But before that, we had the 2104. And on the end of our kitchen counter, you got the sink, and then there's just a small space after the sink that there's no room to put anything. So they Amazon, they have hinges, a table, or a counter where you can snap up.
Mark Ferrell2
And I put a cutting board on that.
Tony Barthel
Oh, cool.
Mark Ferrell2
So we can drop it down and get through there, then do we bring it up, and we have our grandkids with us. They can sit at that little table to eat. Oh. Or it's an extension from our kitchen sink, so we have to put things. Yeah.
Mark Ferrell2
And, also, by the door, they have a pop up, uh, 1 10 Mhmm. Outlets. We put that in our, uh, countertop. It's it's flush. You tap it, comes up, and you got 2 outlets.
Mark Ferrell2
And the plug in is on the outside of the trailer, drilled a hole, mounted it, so we can bring a 110 cord in from outside and plug it in. And then that circuit is separate from the trailer Circuit. So we can plug in, like, a coffee maker or an Instapot, and we can still use microwave or the AC can continue to run without turn it off and using a, uh, an appliance that takes 20 amps.
Tony Barthel
That's a good idea. Great.
Mark Ferrell2
Let me understand how they build them that way. They have them with the pop up Yeah. 110 and the outlets outside that you 30 amp. Run off of your power pole here, and you just plug it in.
Tony Barthel
Well, having a separate circuit though
Speaker 9
That's amazing.
Tony Barthel
That's good. That's nice. And also, we love these trailers, but those outlets aren't necessarily that good for continuous draw. I've seen them melt in different trailers.
Mark Ferrell2
Those outlets that are in the trailers, I had a problem with when when I pulled it off. They have like a little scissors.
Tony Barthel
Yeah. Yeah. It's self tapping when you
Mark Ferrell2
You slide on. Well, my and mine, the old one, the wires started coming off. I hear buzzing and it wouldn't work right. So I took it out and I put a regular household outlets in it now.
Tony Barthel
Yeah.
Mark Ferrell2
So that they are pushed in or on the mounting screws. So you don't have that problem at all.
Tony Barthel
There's not a lot of contact. It's like a scissors type of thing. It's like a And Yeah.
Mark Ferrell2
Yeah. And they slide on. Yeah.
Mark Ferrell1
Very little, uh,
Mark Ferrell0
surface area
Speaker 8
connection. Right.
Mark Ferrell0
It has to cut through the plastic.
Speaker 6
It has
Mark Ferrell2
to cut through the insulation.
Mark Ferrell1
It's cut through the plastic razor's edge connection on edge of the wire.
Mark Ferrell2
And mine had come loose. And it was buzzing and making a noise. And that's how I found out these were just simply cheap. And one more thing.
Speaker 7
Yeah.
Mark Ferrell2
Go pack, go.
Tony Barthel
Excellent. Aaron, I think you have done a lot of, you know your way around fixing stuff. That seems to be my perception just having met you yesterday. Any other mods folks have?
Speaker 8
We did a real little simple thing to the sink, you know, got the high rise faucet on it. Uh-huh. But not like at home, you don't have that sprayer that you can pull out.
Peggy Barthel
Pull out?
Speaker 8
So Amazon. Look on Amazon. You can buy this little snake thing. Mhmm. Not that long.
Speaker 8
Take the nozzle off of the high rise thing, put
Speaker 6
it on, and
Speaker 8
it goes back and forth like that to both
Peggy Barthel
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Those things.
Speaker 8
And it does spray and strain. Little wiggle nozzle? Yeah. It's about that long. Elsman trunk, we call it.
Speaker 6
Yeah. It
Speaker 8
also has one that just
Speaker 7
you take that out and you spray
Speaker 8
put it right on to the the high rise frame.
Tony Barthel
Didn't you buy that in quartzite?
Peggy Barthel
I bought 1 in quartzite, but it was a different size from the faucet. So I Oh,
Speaker 8
so you can buy
Speaker 6
the faucet.
Speaker 4
I probably
Peggy Barthel
need to find one that's yeah. It works it works great. I got frustrated and got rid of it, so I'll have to get another one.
Tony Barthel
Quartzsite is amazing and silly at the same time. So one of the things we found, we have an over the door paper towel holder that, you know, we bought at, like, Target or whatever, and it just fits over our pantry door in the, uh, 2205, and we Peggy discovered that that fits right in that little TV mount on the outside.
Peggy Barthel
That little kind of v shaped mount?
Speaker 7
Yeah. That
Peggy Barthel
thing just slides right in there.
Tony Barthel
And that's right where your griddle and that little table are, so it works out.
Mark Ferrell0
Yeah. A
Speaker 7
little bracket just lies right in that b notch there. Yeah.
Speaker 6
And you
Speaker 7
hang the fan there.
Tony Barthel
Right.
Speaker 7
It's the hurricane oscillating fan.
Mark Ferrell2
Right. And
Tony Barthel
it probably help alleviate the bugs, which right now, they're they're more than
Speaker 5
them here than us. We put it in our bedroom now.
Speaker 7
Oh, you did? Yeah.
Speaker 6
Mount in
Peggy Barthel
the bedroom.
Speaker 7
Where the TV mount is?
Tony Barthel
Oh, that's okay. I'll do it.
Speaker 7
It's wired for the TV, but the mount's not there. So we put it I I screwed it in there. So we
Peggy Barthel
put it
Speaker 7
in the bedroom.
Speaker 8
That's a
Speaker 7
good idea.
Peggy Barthel
Good idea.
Speaker 9
Yeah. What model do you have now? We have the
Speaker 7
25 FKS, which is a 25 o
Speaker 5
25 0 6.
Speaker 7
Oh, 6. 6. Yeah.
Mark Ferrell2
25 0 6.
Speaker 7
That was
Speaker 5
the 1 I'm covered. Yeah. We Which
Speaker 6
is the
Tony Barthel
front kitchen?
Speaker 8
Front kitchen.
Peggy Barthel
Yeah. Susan's ready. Yeah.
Speaker 7
We the the one before we had was a 2503 and had the Murphy bed
Tony Barthel
Okay.
Speaker 7
With 2 doors.
Speaker 5
I I wanna point out that when we were looking at trailers, there were 2 we liked, And he overrode me, and he we know the first trailer was the trailer that he liked. And what trailer do we have now? The one she likes.
Speaker 8
I'm using the way it works out,
Speaker 6
ain't it?
Tony Barthel
Yeah. It's about Yeah. That's how it works.
Peggy Barthel
Okay. So if none of you can think of them odd, how many people have either changed out your mattress or do you use a mattress topper or do you actually love that hard mattress? Mattress topper. Topper? Topper toppers?
Speaker 9
I changed out
Peggy Barthel
my mattress. You changed it? Okay.
Tony Barthel
It would make sense to me that the RV industry ships product with no mattresses, but then when I I worked at an RV dealership for a few years, and it's amazing if you'd had one in there with no mattress, like it was used, and they're like, why isn't there a mattress in here?
Peggy Barthel
Well, and and he said, well the dealerships could just keep all the different kinds of mattresses. So I said, your dealership the building was as big as a trailer. Yeah. It wasn't trailer. Store all those mattresses.
Speaker 9
We bought used this time, and it didn't come with the mattress.
Peggy Barthel
Okay.
Speaker 9
We bought something for it.
Tony Barthel
I don't know if this is funny or sad, but so a lot of people when they bought trailers from us at the dealership, they would just keep the mattress, it's terrible. So somehow I found out about a women's shelter, and these women had, you know, they had gone through not such great things, and so I asked, hey, do you guys want free mattresses? Oh, yeah. And so I brought them a few, and it didn't take them long to go, yeah, don't bring us those anymore.
Speaker 5
That's a that's
Mark Ferrell2
a great
Tony Barthel
idea. Yeah.
Speaker 4
Thanks so much.
Tony Barthel
Poor women have been through enough already.
Peggy Barthel
So we replaced our mattress. We got a mattress from Ghostbed and my nephew came over, we did some other mods and my nephew came over to help do that. He took the mattress topper off the old mattress and took it home because they live in an RV and he said their mattress was like this. And so they took the topper home, and the next day they came over to pick up the babies and I said, take the mattress. The mattress is way better and with the topper it'll be fine, way better than what you have.
Peggy Barthel
And he said, oh no, with the topper it's perfect. I couldn't even get him to take a few minutes out of this.
Tony Barthel
Yeah. They're pretty bad.
Peggy Barthel
Yeah. There's a small percentage admittedly, but there is a small percentage of people who say they love that hard mattress.
Mark Ferrell2
Well Yeah. Yeah.
Tony Barthel
I mean, you go to a mattress store, and there's so many different types. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So anybody do anything where after you're done, you're like, ah, phooey.
Peggy Barthel
That was a bad idea. That was
Tony Barthel
a bad idea.
Mark Ferrell1
We've held off for the route and trying to see what kind of phooey y'all did.
Tony Barthel
That's a great idea.
Speaker 6
We got
Peggy Barthel
our list. We're gonna scratch off things people say
Tony Barthel
not to do.
Mark Ferrell0
That's good. Works bad. Yeah.
Speaker 6
I think
Speaker 9
everything we've done, we've been happy with.
Speaker 4
We hung little shoe racks on this the underside of the bed and on the side of the cabinet with, um, it's not Keban strips, but it's the
Speaker 6
the the
Speaker 4
adhesive patches. Okay. And they come in the heat. They will self remove, and they will take the surface right off. Oh, no.
Speaker 8
Oh, really?
Tony Barthel
Oh, man. That's not good. We have a bunch of those. So far, so good. But
Speaker 8
Yeah. Let's do it.
Peggy Barthel
Well, we don't put anything as heavy as shoes.
Tony Barthel
Yeah. No.
Peggy Barthel
It's hats. We have lightweight stuff, hats. Yeah.
Tony Barthel
Lots and lots of that.
Peggy Barthel
I use
Speaker 4
a lot of command strips, strips and those will work okay. The little pull tab thing, that'll work. They'll come off. But these are the ones, you know, the little round plastic things you peel it off and stick it up and Oh.
Tony Barthel
Yeah. Then then it peels off whatever's under it.
Speaker 5
Dawn, you need to tell what you did with your kitchen sink.
Speaker 7
Oh. Oh, yeah.
Peggy Barthel
What did you do to your kitchen sink, Don?
Speaker 5
Well, a lot of people have dealt with this.
Tony Barthel
All those sink dropped?
Mark Ferrell2
The sink dropped.
Peggy Barthel
Okay.
Mark Ferrell2
And Beth had told us that dirt happened. And before ours dropped, I took a putty knife and went around and found out about half of it was glued. Around one end was glued and a spot glue here. So I went in, used a putty knife, scraped it around, and got the sink down. Then I took it out and set it on top of the opening.
Mark Ferrell2
And there was a lot of glue on the, uh, composite sink, so I sanded it down real good, real fine sandpaper, got it all cleaned up. And now it sits on top, and all the plumbing all fits perfect. There's no changing of the plumbing or anything. It just all fits right in.
Tony Barthel
Good. So your sink is plastic or composite? It's a composite. Because some of them are, uh, stainless steel or at least look like that.
Mark Ferrell2
Stainless steel.
Tony Barthel
Yeah. I don't I don't get the appeal of an Yeah. That was not
Speaker 6
stainless steel. Yeah. I don't I don't get the appeal of an undermount sink. All I could think about is
Tony Barthel
but it's people are, oh, I love that undermount sink.
Speaker 5
Right. They
Speaker 8
all of them are dropped eventually.
Speaker 5
This looks so nice.
Mark Ferrell2
Yeah. The strap on a while, I had sticks underneath pieces of wood to help make sure it didn't drop, but then it got in the way of our storage. Yeah. So I came
Speaker 6
up with it and
Mark Ferrell2
took it out, set it on top. No problem at all. Everything fit perfect.
Speaker 8
So Glued
Mark Ferrell2
it in.
Mark Ferrell0
Your undermount sink is now a
Speaker 7
drop in? Yep.
Mark Ferrell2
Yep. Drop right on top. Didn't change anything. Didn't have to cut recut the hole or anything.
Speaker 6
So what
Mark Ferrell1
you're saying, it was the ridge of the sink after it fell?
Speaker 8
Yes. Okay.
Speaker 7
The the surround. The cleaned up.
Mark Ferrell2
The top part. You sanded it real real fine.
Mark Ferrell1
Glued up underneath. Barely.
Mark Ferrell2
It was glued up barely underneath.
Speaker 8
You figured it out. So many of those are dropping. Yeah. We had it. For it.
Tony Barthel
For those of you who don't know, we have a Facebook group, Rockwood mini light hyphen flagstaff micro light fan club, and we have, like, 12,000 people in there. And there was a time that the sinks were dropping out left and right, and my understanding is that, uh, glue supplier, their product didn't live up to what they claimed. Because you don't see it anymore, but like, well, yeah. You know, a a mod that Tony did, not this Tony, but the other Tony, I wanna hear about your roof.
Mark Ferrell0
Oh, so you started out with last year, we had a hailstorm.
Mark Ferrell2
Yeah.
Mark Ferrell0
Um, so on Saturday night, this one freak storm everything was north of us. One freak storm came from the west, and it put down golf ball sized hail. And the trucks all took a beating, but we didn't think that the trailers took much of a beating. It's more the tow vehicles all got in it. Well, I went on the roof.
Mark Ferrell0
Nothing was broken. The skylight was broke not broken. The air conditioner cover wasn't broken. Nothing. Fast forward 11 months later and Fred Schultz called me and said you need to go look at your roof again And it was just on the leading edge where the rubber wraps over to the side, and there were these little half moon cuts in it.
Mark Ferrell0
And we called the insurance company, and they said, yeah. You've got to have a claim because it's a through and through cut, and water will go down. And so, um, we found a company called Elite RV Roof and Collision, up in North Fort Worth, Texas, and they put the rhino lining roof on. Um, they took everything off the roof, everything, um, replaced any wood that was damaged. And then it's a coat of polyurethane, and then they actually spray the rhino lining on there 3 eighths of an inch thick.
Tony Barthel
Wow.
Mark Ferrell0
Yeah. It's it's thick.
Mark Ferrell2
Bring on the hell
Speaker 7
now, Yeah.
Tony Barthel
If if it starts to hell, I'm coming to your trailer.
Speaker 4
Right?
Mark Ferrell0
We've been through 2 rainstorms, and you can hardly hear it raining because the roof is so thick.
Speaker 7
Yeah. Wow.
Peggy Barthel
Now in a way, that's a little bit sad to me because I like it when it sounds like ping pong balls
Speaker 6
are coming on through.
Mark Ferrell0
We still
Speaker 7
don't know.
Speaker 5
So much. Yeah.
Mark Ferrell0
But But
Peggy Barthel
you have it on this slide. Okay. Actually, no
Mark Ferrell0
it's lifetime guaranteed. Transferable. So if we sold our trailer, the new owners get the lifetime guarantee. Um, there's no maintenance. I I use no dichlor, uh, nothing.
Mark Ferrell0
Uh, I don't have to touch it. Other take a garden hose and hose it off.
Speaker 6
Do you
Tony Barthel
know if it added any weight? £200. £200? Okay. £200.
Mark Ferrell1
Did you add it to the top of
Mark Ferrell0
the slide out as well? No. We did not put it on the slide out.
Speaker 8
It that is slide covered.
Mark Ferrell0
They they weren't in favor of
Tony Barthel
adding care.
Mark Ferrell2
Recommend that. We also
Speaker 6
have it.
Speaker 5
Yeah. We waited till Fred and Tony did theirs. And then you did
Speaker 7
yours. Work.
Peggy Barthel
Well, yeah. Like Aaron. Right? Wait and make sure it's gonna work
Tony Barthel
before you
Peggy Barthel
do it.
Speaker 5
Spray the bumper and then that front the
Peggy Barthel
grill on the front.
Speaker 5
Oh, You're a rock guy.
Tony Barthel
That Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 6
From resting because we live on the coast and so salt.
Speaker 7
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 5
Where do y'all live? Lake Jackson.
Tony Barthel
Oh, okay.
Speaker 5
So Not as far as damage.
Peggy Barthel
Yeah. These guys
Mark Ferrell0
that that did it, this elite RV roof and collision, um, when they took our trailer apart, they number 1, they came and picked our trailer up
Speaker 7
and took Really? Out of the repair shop.
Mark Ferrell2
Nice. Um,
Mark Ferrell0
the the insurance company only wanted to pay $34100 for a total roof. And then when Elite called them, they were like, oh, yep. Okay. We'll pay the full thing. Now now we did pay the difference between the rubber roof and the the new roof, uh, the the Rhino roof, which was $37 a foot, and it's linear foot.
Speaker 7
Okay.
Mark Ferrell0
So that that wasn't that much. Um, but when they were taking taking it down, taking it apart, they broke the TV antenna. So they just called us and said, we broke the antenna. We're replacing it. And, you know, new antenna, RV I mean, uh, Wi Fi extenders, the whole 9 yards.
Tony Barthel
Wow. Okay.
Speaker 5
We were hoping they break ours because he didn't
Speaker 8
What was strange, that hailstorm. It didn't break any of the, uh,
Speaker 7
skylights, the
Speaker 8
air conditioning colors.
Peggy Barthel
It broke the
Speaker 5
um, the not the skylight, but the vent. The vent the cover The
Peggy Barthel
cover over the vent?
Speaker 5
We didn't
Speaker 9
know it with the fan.
Speaker 5
Until right before we took it to RV Elite. It rained. It was sitting in our driveway. We were ready to go someplace, and it rained. And we walked in the bathroom, and there was water on
Speaker 6
the floor. Oh, okay.
Speaker 5
Straight down. Luckily, it wouldn't come in that walls and stuff. But they told us there was a crack, like, that you could barely see someplace. They they found it right away. It's not
Tony Barthel
something you
Speaker 7
could find.
Tony Barthel
Well, that's not good because we're in a hailstorm the other day, and Peggy said, go up on the roof and see what you see,
Speaker 5
and I said, ah, the
Tony Barthel
the skylight is fine, it should be all okay, but now it
Speaker 6
makes me
Peggy Barthel
Now we've got it.
Speaker 6
Now it
Tony Barthel
makes me second guess.
Speaker 5
You'll find out tomorrow. Yeah. Really? All on
Speaker 9
the edge.
Peggy Barthel
Yeah. Like little crescents.
Speaker 7
Just tell
Speaker 8
me a drone for.
Peggy Barthel
A drone. Yeah.
Speaker 5
Right. Yeah.
Peggy Barthel
It is really high up on our shopping list. Well, the funny thing is, I always say if you wanna know the funny
Tony Barthel
thing is, I always say, if you wanna know the laziest way to accomplish a task, I am your man. So, like, inspecting the roof Yeah. I take that GoPro camera on a pole, and I shoot a video, and I can go in and zoom in and all of that stuff, and then I have a sequence. So I'm like, okay, the roof looked like that here. Now, 4 months later, whatever, it looks like this.
Tony Barthel
And if I'm like, oh, there's, you know, a problem, then I can
Speaker 7
Good idea.
Tony Barthel
So that's my lazy man tip for the The
Speaker 8
older you get, the less you want to get up there.
Mark Ferrell0
That's true. You should urge people to download not just the weather channel, but to pay and get a good radar app because we were sitting watching the movie, and we're watching the storms. The lightning and cured the thunder and the big clouds to the north of us. And then out of the blue on my radar app, one popped up to the west. And, you know, the color rations, it it went green, red, white, pink.
Mark Ferrell0
White and pink is hail. And we literally we all took off and hooked them, and we got back to our trailers.
Speaker 6
And, I
Mark Ferrell0
mean, the hail was here.
Speaker 5
Yeah. It was.
Mark Ferrell0
It was it was severe.
Mark Ferrell3
It had started to hail way before it started to rain.
Mark Ferrell0
Yeah. Yeah.
Mark Ferrell2
We were sitting
Speaker 8
in our trailer,
Mark Ferrell3
and it was like,
Speaker 5
bang. Bang.
Tony Barthel
Oh gosh.
Mark Ferrell3
I mean, it just came down. And it
Mark Ferrell0
was just hail.
Speaker 7
It wasn't raining at all. It was just hail. Wow.
Mark Ferrell0
Tony, his truck was 3 days old.
Tony Barthel
Oh, that's right.
Mark Ferrell0
Ours was 6 weeks old.
Tony Barthel
Yeah. This was its first trip. Right? Your truck?
Speaker 7
Yeah. 273 miles.
Peggy Barthel
Oh, no. $9,000 in the eyes.
Speaker 7
I didn't call the insurance company. I told them I had, uh, 2 things. I bought a new truck. Oh, congratulations. And, yeah, now I need to do a hail claim on it.
Speaker 7
Oh,
Speaker 5
boy. They we had
Peggy Barthel
to wait for the insure I mean, it was not
Speaker 5
not a problem, but they had to do all the paperwork.
Speaker 9
They had
Speaker 5
however many days to switch it over. Yeah.
Speaker 6
And they had
Speaker 5
to do all the paperwork to switch over the insurance before we could make the claim. Oh gosh.
Speaker 7
Man. We're bugging you.
Speaker 9
We're the biggest. New insurance in there.
Speaker 5
Took everything
Speaker 8
else. Yes. I Uh-huh.
Speaker 7
Took every house.
Speaker 6
Yes. I hear you.
Speaker 7
Took it.
Mark Ferrell2
You can't see any dents.
Speaker 7
Any Did
Tony Barthel
they have to take out any interior? Or was it Yeah.
Speaker 7
Oh, there's over 600 dents in the hood alone.
Speaker 8
Yeah. Oh, boy. Pull the interior. Can you do it all that way?
Mark Ferrell0
You you sit we went to the bathroom with our 2 dogs, brought the slide out on our trailer, and then went to the bathroom up there. Replaced it. And I stood there and watched with tears in my eye. Yeah.
Speaker 6
Hail. Just like
Mark Ferrell0
hating our truck. It didn't bust the windshield.
Tony Barthel
That's the amazing thing. Yeah.
Mark Ferrell0
And then, of course, we were all outside after it. And the funny thing is right here across from where y'all are at, there was 200 cub scouts camping in tents.
Speaker 7
Oh, boy.
Peggy Barthel
And so
Mark Ferrell0
it was like a
Peggy Barthel
kids.
Mark Ferrell0
City down here from all
Mark Ferrell
the Yeah.
Mark Ferrell0
Park rangers and people coming to check on the kids.
Mark Ferrell1
Oh, they earned their badges.
Speaker 9
They did.
Tony Barthel
Yeah. The the hell badge.
Speaker 5
But if it happens this year, we are going to pull our truck into the grass under the tree no matter what the
Speaker 8
park we
Speaker 5
are. What's
Speaker 7
that store? What's that store there? What if that they were getting at getting after you if you parked?
Speaker 8
So so they told
Speaker 7
you not to we
Mark Ferrell0
asked the the park host, um, there's there there might be hail tonight. Could could we put our trucks under the trees? And they looked at us and said, absolutely not. No vehicles on grass. So we all play by the rules.
Mark Ferrell0
Right? The next morning, the park coast truck is under the trees, and he got it stuck.
Speaker 6
Oh. Boy,
Mark Ferrell1
that karma came around. Yeah.
Tony Barthel
Did you guys all stand there and go? Oh, man. Yeah.
Speaker 8
That was a bad deal for hell because when I took mine into that paintingless dent place, they had guys there that had just come from down South Texas somewhere around A&M for a bad hailstorm. They're up here for this hailstorm. When they got through the FWS area, they all went to Denver for That big hailstorm.
Speaker 5
Oh, the insurance agents.
Speaker 8
The insurance the the dent people.
Tony Barthel
Is that that's probably where your brother had his your brother had his truck out in the hill.
Peggy Barthel
In Denver.
Tony Barthel
And he was with us on vacation, and he sees them apart, and it's like, uh, man.
Speaker 8
They sent 40 people to Denver. The hell, this company ID of Denver. Man. Well, then we know where to
Tony Barthel
go. Yeah. We have an end now.
Speaker 8
It's a big discount. Right?
Peggy Barthel
Do any of you have solar panels? And did you when the hail came?
Speaker 8
Fred does, but he's not here.
Peggy Barthel
Fred did. I don't think Fred had a
Speaker 5
VIN, though, did he?
Speaker 8
Not last year.
Peggy Barthel
Yeah. Oh, no.
Tony Barthel
Oh, yeah. That's what I I wonder because that whole roof is almost glass.
Peggy Barthel
Yeah. Our roof
Tony Barthel
is pretty protected by solar panels.
Speaker 7
Oh, okay. Yeah. I see. Yeah.
Speaker 5
Yeah. I
Tony Barthel
wonder how it would do.
Speaker 9
Didn't David Annette have solar panels they said didn't get affected? Mhmm. I've never read that.
Tony Barthel
David Annette.
Speaker 9
David Annette.
Mark Ferrell0
No. David Annette, they they a damper van. Exterior. And and their, uh, air conditioner cover got cracked at temperature.
Speaker 9
But not the solar.
Tony Barthel
No? That's impressive.
Mark Ferrell0
So if if you talk to Rockwood, would you ask them which brain surgeon came up with the idea of putting all the water connections right over the power
Speaker 5
connections? Yeah. Yeah.
Tony Barthel
It keeps it clean.
Mark Ferrell1
The part of Ohmslow there?
Speaker 5
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 4
You know, it's interesting to hear things like that and the and the issues that, you know, I know the front windshield is a is a is a real sore spot. A 2015 has a nice cover that pulls
Speaker 8
down over
Speaker 7
the Yes.
Speaker 4
The 2015 has the water connections on the back and the power on the side. A 2015 has a top mount kitchen sink. So what am I missing?
Speaker 8
They all you gotta use do something new
Mark Ferrell0
to Yeah.
Speaker 7
To improve.
Speaker 8
Attract new, like
Speaker 9
Like putting glass in the oven doors.
Speaker 4
Yeah. Uh, 2015 has a metal oven door.
Speaker 9
I still do.
Peggy Barthel
I still do.
Mark Ferrell2
Tony, talk about
Speaker 7
the the, uh, solar. How much power do you get off of that, and how long can you like doodle with that, or is that really a big help?
Tony Barthel
Yeah. It's fantastic. So it's a 1000 watts of solar, and 400 amp hours of lithium battery. And I'll I'll be happy to show you guys all that, because I dig that stuff. The answer how long we can go off grid is it depends.
Tony Barthel
Like, today was cloudy, uh, where were we the other day? And it was still cloudy, and we still went up to a 100. Oh, was it Dave and Bev's?
Peggy Barthel
At Dave and Bev's. Bev's.
Tony Barthel
So we were at some friend's house, and we parked like on their front lawn for a few days in Oklahoma, and it was cloudy. And I was, you know, like, oh, I wonder what's gonna happen here. And we have a 12 volt fridge, and the 12 volt fridge will take about 60 to 80 amp hours over a 24 hour period. So you figure that it's a 400 amp hour battery, so about a 5th of that is just the fridge over 24 hours. So I was curious, how much is it gonna recover?
Tony Barthel
And it went back up to a 100 percent at night, even on a cloudy day. Now, from 80% where I woke up in the morning. So it recovered 20%. I don't you know, once it hits a 100 it stops. So how long we can boondock?
Tony Barthel
We the power is no longer the reason we come in. That system has just been bulletproof. We've been very pleased with it. It's maybe the best part of the whole trailer, quite honestly. So it's no longer power that brings us in from camping, it's now water.
Tony Barthel
Water is now the challenge.
Peggy Barthel
Our fresh water and our gray tank are the limiting factors now.
Tony Barthel
Right.
Peggy Barthel
Electricity is not. And by the way, Jim, thank you for asking that question, because now we put an ad. Yeah.
Tony Barthel
But also, we can run the air conditioner for depends on how much power we're getting in, but we can run it for 4 to 7 hours, depending on,
Speaker 5
you know Yeah.
Tony Barthel
Various circumstances, which is kind of impressive. So if you are boondocking, and it's kind of a hot, muggy day, you run it for a couple hours at night, and you're good.
Speaker 7
It has a soft start on it?
Tony Barthel
It does. Yeah. And that was part of standard.
Speaker 4
This is not aftermarket.
Tony Barthel
It's a system from Rockwood called the
Peggy Barthel
Power package?
Tony Barthel
The power package. Okay. I could look at the sticker.
Peggy Barthel
It's called the power package. Master vault. Master vault. Yes. So it is a package that is designed and built by ABC Upfitters, and you can go you can take yours in now and get it up fitted, or you can order them now with the power package installed during manufacturing.
Tony Barthel
So one of the unusual things about this system is it uses Mastervolt batteries, charge controllers, inverters, and Mastervolt is a company that's well known in the marine industry, because they tend not to fail. So it's not the cheapest stuff out there, but it it just works. I mean, it's it's really impressive. So
Mark Ferrell2
Lithium battery?
Tony Barthel
It's a single 400 amp hour,
Speaker 6
it's a big I'll show
Tony Barthel
it to you. And now they're putting 460 amp hour batteries in, so it's even more power. But, yeah, it's a it's a lithium battery.
Speaker 8
How much weight does all that add?
Tony Barthel
I have no idea. I suspect I suspect probably 2 100 to £250, but you figure there's no battery on the tongue.
Mark Ferrell0
That's right.
Tony Barthel
There's just that battery. And if you have 2 flooded batteries on the tongue, there's a £160. So I think the battery is not light, but I think that inverter and charge controller is also not light. Because it's it's like this big and like that thick, that thing.
Speaker 6
Have a
Mark Ferrell0
cover for your windshield? Yes.
Peggy Barthel
Yes.
Tony Barthel
Because there's already a crack in it.
Mark Ferrell0
Well So when we bought our trailer, we found a company that installs Kevlar. Oh. We have our windshield covered in Kevlar. Uh, transparent, but it's Kevlar. And it wasn't cheap.
Mark Ferrell0
It's $500. But the Norcom wood, it's worked so far.
Tony Barthel
Yeah. The the disadvantage, we have that, uh, YB Outdoors, and it's thick, and I like it because it's it has insulative properties.
Mark Ferrell0
Yes.
Tony Barthel
And you could take it off in theory, but no, you know, it's Velcroed on, so I don't think I would.
Peggy Barthel
We don't just because we don't wanna stress the Velcro too often. Somebody is it it wasn't someone I don't think that's here, but got a cover that is got you put magnets on the inside of the windshield? I
Speaker 6
saw that.
Mark Ferrell2
Yeah. Yeah. That's the
Tony Barthel
latest thing.
Peggy Barthel
I told Tony this morning I didn't go back and look to see if anyone actually said they've driven with that cover on.
Speaker 8
Yeah.
Peggy Barthel
Someone said, I wouldn't go 80 miles an hour with that. And I said, well, I'm going 80 miles an hour at all.
Tony Barthel
80 miles an hour towing?
Speaker 7
Like magnets. Wait. We have benches.
Mark Ferrell2
So I mean, the
Speaker 7
crystal wreath
Mark Ferrell3
you hang on a door with a
Peggy Barthel
little Oh. Uh-huh.
Speaker 6
And you
Mark Ferrell3
can hang a wreath on the outside. The magnets on the inside that hold it.
Speaker 6
Right. And
Mark Ferrell3
you put a Christmas wreath or something.
Peggy Barthel
That would make sense to advance.
Speaker 9
Yeah. Yeah.
Tony Barthel
Yeah. I think these magnets stick to the inside of the windshield.
Peggy Barthel
You stick them on the windshield.
Tony Barthel
And you know, not just magnetic, but with an adhesive.
Peggy Barthel
But I've seen too, the ones that are Kevlar, but then also just like the like holy, I can't think of what it's called, but like perforated or whatever mesh kind of, and they're pretty usually, and you can see out it. So this once in a while, we regret that we don't take our cover off because we can't see out.
Tony Barthel
Yeah, but all the other people in the campground are glad that they can't see out.
Peggy Barthel
They can't see in. So
Tony Barthel
it works out for everybody.
Peggy Barthel
But we know now we don't close the shade on the inside, so we can see the window. And every once in a while, I'll go to change to get ready for bed and go, oh, the window's open. No, it's not.
Mark Ferrell1
YB Outdoors has an option for a Velcro or snaps, and the snaps idea kind of made me nervous.
Tony Barthel
Yeah. I you know, they have very detailed instructions, and it's, you know, you really follow them, and we've had it since last year.
Peggy Barthel
We were in Mississippi last March, is when we put it on.
Speaker 5
So it's
Peggy Barthel
been on for more than a year.
Speaker 7
Over a
Tony Barthel
year, and it's still
Mark Ferrell1
And the sprinkler ones held on fine. It doesn't even move or budge.
Speaker 7
Yeah. Yeah.
Tony Barthel
Yeah. You have a camo one, so how do you see it?
Peggy Barthel
How do you even know it's there?
Mark Ferrell1
It's into the far woods.
Tony Barthel
Well, I guess that's pretty much what we have this week. We I really appreciate being able to come and join you all, and Yes. For your time, and and your great tips, and, uh, I guess with that
Peggy Barthel
Stressless camping.
Mark Ferrell
We hope you learned a lot, and had some fun and got some tips for your next stressless camping adventure. We're honored by your reviews on Apple Podcasts, which helps others find us too. Don't forget to subscribe so you won't miss out on the adventure, and we look forward to your joining us next week. Until then, happy camping.
Speaker 6
That's it.
Peggy Barthel
Thank you. Thank you.
Tony Barthel
Thank you. Thank
Speaker 6
you. That
Mark Ferrell
was great.
Tony Barthel
Okay. Now it's time for beer.
Speaker 7
No. I hit my head voice over.
Peggy Barthel
Good. Good for you.
