Tony & Peggy Barthel - StressLess Campers

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The 300th episode of the StressLess Camping RV podcast

The 300th episode of the StressLess Camping RV podcast

Looking back on 300 podcast episodes

This week on the StressLess Camping RV Podcast, we are celebrating episode 300! How did we get here? How have we been consistent for 300 weeks in a row? That’s nearly six years!

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Mentioned on this episode

Our most sincere thanks to Robert Morales, aka Traveling Robert, who is a great video creator and also a musician. Robert helped us put together our new theme song.

Tony worked at Redwood Empire RVs in Ukiah, CA.

Tony’s first podcast - the Curbside Classic Car Show

The bed and breakfast we owned is still out there - you can stay at the Featherbed Railroad Bed & Breakfast Resort too!


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Automated transcript of StressLess Camping RV podcast episode 300

Peggy Barthel

Where is everybody? 

Where's the Whistler? Where's our song? What is Happening? Uh-oh. A note. It looks like a ransom note. It says, see a Suckers. I've been whistling this song for 300 episodes and my lips are parched. I'm moving to a land where chapstick is free and nobody whistles all the time. What are we gonna do now? 

Tony Barthel

Now, funny. We could get somebody to turn that into an actual song. Wait, I have an idea. Let's call traveling Robert. Robert. Robert help. 

Peggy Barthel

Well, what'd you think? What do you think? It's probably still playing. 

Tony Barthel

Well, let us know. We were very fortunate to be able to work with traveling Robert on a new song for the Stressless Camping, the whole entity. Part of the reason is every week when we upload to YouTube, they send us a notice that we are violating copyright and blah, blah, blah. Please take the music out. We have to argue with them. It's a pain in the neck. And we've been wanting to change the song just a little bit for some time. 

Tony Barthel

And I, at Quartzsite, I talked to Traveling Robert, and basically that's what we came up with. So, so 

Peggy Barthel

We would like your feedback. 

Tony Barthel

If it's good, 

Peggy Barthel

We would like your good feedback, man. We might be 

Tony Barthel

Be doing 

Peggy Barthel

Minor tweaks, but this is essentially what we're going with. So we hope that you like it. We hope that you enjoy today's episode, which is episode number 300. Yeah, 

Tony Barthel

We're, we're gonna kind of go back and talk about us. 

Peggy Barthel

Yeah. We told you not to get too excited, didn't 

Tony Barthel

We? Yeah, I know. We had ice cream earlier, if that's helpful at all. We 

Peggy Barthel

Did have ice cream earlier. And we are, well, you know what we do? We introduce ourselves is to RV veterans who travel part-time in this Rockwood Mini Light. 

Tony Barthel

We're gonna share big adventures and help you with great tips, 

Peggy Barthel

Tricks, 

Tony Barthel

And discounts. 

Peggy Barthel

So today we're gonna tell you how we got 

Tony Barthel

Got here. 

Peggy Barthel

Here. Yeah. How did we, not only how did we get to 300, but what are we doing? Having a podcast in the first place, right? 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. All of that stuff. There's a few of you who haven't been with us since the very beginning, and I don't blame you. 

Peggy Barthel

You may not be with us till the very end. 

Tony Barthel

Who knows? Yeah. So, but anyway, we thought we'd give you kind of the origin story and what our vision was and is and all that. And 

Peggy Barthel

So we kind of do a, a shortened version of this a lot of times, especially when we're doing our, you know, seminars and people haven't met us before and you all have, but maybe you're new or maybe you haven't heard the whole story. So we just, you know, thought, well, let's just start from the beginning. My beginning back in the old days. Yeah. I maintain that. I was conceived on my parents' camping honeymoon and I, so I literally have been camping since before I was born. 

Speaker 1

Yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

I came, I came from a camping family. You know, I have pictures of my grandmother camping with my aunts and uncles. When I was a, a little girl, we used to camp in my father's truck camper when my mom had five kids to take camping. And we lived in Southern California and we lived really close to the Mojave Desert. So we could just go any old time we wanted. And we did a lot. First in a tiny, like I've seen, I remember the trailer a little bit, but the pictures, you know, it's like a 16 or 17 foot what is now a vintage trailer. 

Peggy Barthel

Back then, it was just a trailer. It, I cannot figure out how six of us slept in that thing. I 

Tony Barthel

Probably outside or something. 

Peggy Barthel

No, maybe we slept outside. Maybe. I don't remember. I really don't remember. I asked my mom, she said, well, you know, we managed, and then from the trailer we moved to a 1967 Winnebago, which was not only our camper, but our daily driver. And again, I only remember three or four bed spaces. So how did six of us sleep? Well, we managed, but you know, I come from a camping family. My grandparents belonged to a doom buggy clubs. So we would be out in the desert tearing up the desert with doom buggies, with huge gobs of people. 

Peggy Barthel

You know, when my grandfather built a Baja Bug, my mom would take us on date, you know, little trips around and get us, get us lost, or get us stuck on the side of a hill. Things like that. So I really camped, you know, throughout my entire childhood. Then I married my first husband, and I camped quite a bit. He had a truck camper. He built a truck camper on the back of his pickup. 

Tony Barthel

He was handier than I am. 

Peggy Barthel

Well, you know, it was never completed, but we won't really go 

Tony Barthel

There. Oh. Didn't realize we had so much in common. 

Peggy Barthel

And so we camped quite a bit again in the Mojave Desert, death Valley Air. Well, what is now part of Death Valley Park, but wasn't back then. Saline Valley. And we, you know, we again, we just went out in the desert and parked somewhere and camped and drank beer and shot the beer cans and, you know, just had a a times in the desert. We did that as often as possible as well. Then I became a college student and a geology student to be more, more exact. 

Peggy Barthel

And geology classes, geology college requires getting out there in the field and seeing things and doing things in the field. So I, again, camped a lot. And now I didn't have any kind of an RV at that time. I camped in a tent, or I camped in the back of my first, my RAV-IV. Oh no, first my 

Speaker 1

Forerunner, 

Peggy Barthel

Then my RAV-IV. And I literally bought the RAV-IV because it had a flat enough space to, I bought the forerunner because it had a flat enough space for me to camp in. 'cause that's what I wanted to do. I wanted to be able to just go out in my vehicle and, you know, sleep in the car and, and have fun. So I went with a lot of college trips, a lot of college friends. And then I met Tony. We had a Jayco travel trailer. But I think I should stop because by the time I meet you, then we have a, a different story. 

Peggy Barthel

That's us together. Yeah, 

Tony Barthel

That's true. 

Peggy Barthel

So why don't you tell us up until that point. 

Tony Barthel

All right. Well, like, you know, a bunch of kids. I belong to one of those like boys can't one boys groups, you know, there's the Scouts and all of that. I belong to the Y Indian Guides, which is part of YMCA. And you know, we did our usual tent camping in a surplus army tent that you couldn't touch if it was raining, because it would leak. So we did that and then as a kid, we would go to the LA County Fair and Pomona every year. And all the normal kids would go look at the animals or ride the rides. 

Tony Barthel

I would go and annoy the RV salespeople. 'cause I was fascinated. I'm like, oh, you could bring your house with you. That's so cool. And of course, I always wanted my parents to buy a VW camper. 'cause those were available then. And one summer, I think late in high school, or maybe junior high, finally there was some dude at my dad's work, and he had an old champion motor. 

Tony Barthel

Well, it wasn't old then, but it was a champion motor home. And so there was some deal at work. My dad rented it from him for a vacation. So my sister and I each got to bring a friend along. And so we went on this trip. What a piece of junk, that thing. So you could sit on the toilet and look down and see through the shower, drain the road. And there was aluminum foil in the fuse box. It was a complete piece of junk. 

Tony Barthel

We, at one point we were in, oh gosh, like banning or something, and the fan belt blew, and it's a Sunday, but there was some old guy who, my dad talked out of a fan belt or something. Anyway, but I still liked it. And I forgot to mention, you know, when, when Tonka came out with the Tonka Winnebago, the, it was a, you know, like a Tonka motorhome. I had to have one. So that was my first motorhome and just liked RVs and, and all of that. 

Tony Barthel

Then I guess we got together. 

Peggy Barthel

So I forgot a couple things. I looked at my notes while you were talking. I realized I forgot a couple things. When I was 10 or less, you know, 8, 9, 10 years old, my best friend Lisa and I would play in our basement. In my basement. And we would, I, I don't know how we had a, you know, I think my parents got a new washing machine or something. But we had a big cardboard box, maybe a refrigerator, maybe a something. But it was a big old cardboard box. And Lisa and I would sit in that box and RV across the country. 

Peggy Barthel

That was how we played. That's so cool. That was what we did. And that was our, you know, like that's what we wanted to do. That's when we grew up. We were gonna RV across the country together. And obviously I have been doing that, but not with Lisa, 

Tony Barthel

Though. We've stopped and visited her. We 

Peggy Barthel

Have visited Lisa. Yep. Our lives went separate ways. And then also, I didn't mention that when I first got out of high school, I worked with my aunt Kathy at a company called Alpha Leisure. And at that time, Alpha made travel trailers and fifth wheels. After I left, they went to making motor homes. And they are no longer, sadly no longer in, in production. But I worked for the company when we've made travel trailers and fifth wheels, and I was the drawer builder. So for about a year, a year and a half or so, I worked building all the drawers that went in every Alpha trailer. 

Tony Barthel

Wow. 

Peggy Barthel

In the early eighties. 

Tony Barthel

Wow. I back to, I, I don't know, I just remembered this too. You remembered. 

Peggy Barthel

That's okay. 

Tony Barthel

The Y Indian guide, the story was one time we went camping and I think it must have been like a Friday night that we went, because we got to the camp late enough. So my dad probably, you know, it was Friday night, so he had to get off work and all that, and we packed the car and we go and set up at a, at Darby Park in Inglewood. And like three in the morning the sprinklers go off and like, you know, those big commercial park sprinklers. And we had managed to set our tent right on one of those. 

Tony Barthel

And man, what a mess. And so all of us, you know, all the kids who were part of this thing, all gathered at my house then, or you know, my parents' house. And somehow we got donuts. I, it must have been late enough in the morning that the donut shop had already opened. And then David Sperling, you ate all the donuts. Uh-oh. Oh, I only got one donut. I do. I, yeah, donuts, man. So anyway, this, you know, those silly camping stories and that old tent, what a piece of junk. 

Tony Barthel

I mean it was, you know, it was old army surplus that we probably bought at an army surplus store. And then we had that shovel that always failed, 

Peggy Barthel

Eh, the fold-in-half 

Tony Barthel

One, the fold in half shovel that everybody had then. And the stove you couldn't light. And the lantern that you always forgot to bring mantles for and all. I like RVs, 

Peggy Barthel

So it might not quite count, but didn't you do a trip where you were on a houseboat? That's sort of like an RV, right? Oh, 

Tony Barthel

Yeah, yeah. That was really fun. So my parents took us, we did some pretty epic vacations, but they're all basically driving vacations and predominantly in California. So we'd go from Southern California to north. But yeah, we went on a houseboat again about, I was probably 14, 15, and they rented a houseboat in the Sacramento Delta. And boy, that was, I really liked that trip. 

Peggy Barthel

Herman 

Tony Barthel

And Helen's Marina. 

Peggy Barthel

That is something I would not mind doing. 

Tony Barthel

I wouldn't either. It's basically a floating motor home. Right. And yeah, I would totally do that. That would be, that would be fun. 

Peggy Barthel

Yeah, 

Tony Barthel

We would jump off the roof. We would, you know, the like the 

Peggy Barthel

Into the lake 

Tony Barthel

There's Yeah, into the Delta. So there's obviously the main deck, and then you could climb a ladder and get on the roof and we would all jump off and 

Peggy Barthel

You climbed a ladder. 

Tony Barthel

Well, I was young, I was younger then young and silly. I did a lot of dumb stuff when I was a. 

Peggy Barthel

Okay. That's why you don't do it now. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah, I've got, I got my myself. Still got outta your 

Peggy Barthel

System. Yeah. So when Tony and I met, he was not camping. I was, you know, still sleeping in my car, going out to the desert with my friends on occasion. 

Tony Barthel

She had a house too, but, you know, 

Peggy Barthel

Well, yeah, I wasn't sleep, I wasn't living in my car. I was going camping in my car. And then we got together and 

Tony Barthel

That 

Peggy Barthel

Was, Tony worked weekends. So it was kind of, you know, it was, it was A, In our early years, I worked and went to school during the week and he worked on the weekends. So we didn't do a lot of, you know, going away type type of things. But if he had a weekend off, we would. And then 

Tony Barthel

It was always weird because I worked basically doing events mostly. I started out as a DJ and then did a lot of event management. And we, we actually eventually bought a banquet hall with a partner and all that nonsense. And on the weekends when I didn't have a gig, it felt so weird. 

Peggy Barthel

Yes, so 

Tony Barthel

Strange. I always thought there was somebody who's gonna call and go, where in the world are you? Did you 

Peggy Barthel

Forget to go to the we to the event this 

Tony Barthel

Weekend? And I filled in a few times for people where that happened. Like my buddy Jack, I distinctly remember one time he called, he is like, there's a, there's an event and they need someone today. 

Peggy Barthel

Oh man. 

Tony Barthel

And I rushed up to the Antelope Valley or whatever. And 

Peggy Barthel

It wasn't him that forgot. 

Tony Barthel

No, no, no. Jack was very meticulous. 

Peggy Barthel

I was gonna say he was pretty meticulous. 

Tony Barthel

No, no. It was like, you know, he was in a pretty tight community and somehow some banquet hall was like, you know, 

Peggy Barthel

Do you know anybody? 

Tony Barthel

Do you know anybody? And here I, here I come. 

Peggy Barthel

Nice. 

Tony Barthel

Here I come to save the day. 

Peggy Barthel

So when we did get a chance to take weekends off, oh, you 

Tony Barthel

Know what, what? I wrote a book too. Oh, 

Peggy Barthel

You wrote a book? That's right. 

Tony Barthel

That's Wedding Horror stories and how to avoid them. And one of these days, I'll put it back on Amazon. Yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

So 

Tony Barthel

I've always, so my education was in writing and I used to fancy myself writing a syndicated column. And I actually did at one point write a car column. You know, it was about new cars that went and bunch a newspaper. So anyway, that's, that, that's, 

Peggy Barthel

That's kind of important. 'cause that leads 

Tony Barthel

Important 

Peggy Barthel

To what you do now. Right? 

Tony Barthel

It does lead to what I do now. 

Peggy Barthel

So at one point we went camping together with some friends and they had, one of the couples had a Yeah, tent trailer. A pop-up tent trailer. Yeah. 

Tony Barthel

An old Jayco pop-up tent trailer. 

Peggy Barthel

And they, they eventually were divorcing and wanted to sell the trailer. And so we bought their travel trailer from them. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

And we went 

Tony Barthel

Camping. Well, the funny thing, this is legitimately, the husband goes, just sell it and I'll split it with you. Oh, 

Peggy Barthel

Yeah. So 

Tony Barthel

She sold it to us for 500 bucks. Yeah, 

Peggy Barthel

She did not, she didn't worry about what it was. She didn't care. Didn't care. And we were happy to get that bargain and 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

So then we got to go camping. 

Tony Barthel

It was gross. 

Peggy Barthel

Well, it was, 

Tony Barthel

Remember the had been wet, the canvas, it had been wet and 

Peggy Barthel

Put 

Tony Barthel

Away, and we had to like bleach the canvases. 

Peggy Barthel

Yeah. It was pretty stinky 

Tony Barthel

And it stunk. Not everything worked in that trailer. We, we fixed some stuff, 

Peggy Barthel

We fixed it, but it was fine. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

Basically it was just a little bit better than a tent. Right. And we have never 10, well, up until last year, we have never had, never tent camped. 

Tony Barthel

Not together. 

Peggy Barthel

We didn't tent camp together. So I used to say, Tony, I 

Tony Barthel

Couldn't find a commercial sprinkler to put a tent on. 

Peggy Barthel

So, so we had that tent trailer and we went on some really great trips. We went to Mammoth and we went 

Tony Barthel

To, 

Peggy Barthel

To, 

Tony Barthel

We went to the races in the desert a lot. Yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

We went out to the desert a lot. 

Tony Barthel

We used to sponsor a, a, a car in that would do time trials in the desert. 

Peggy Barthel

We went to, was it like Malibu or, you know, up in 

Tony Barthel

Area? Oh yeah, we went to Malibu. 

Peggy Barthel

So yeah, so we had a good time with the travel trailer. And then we had a friend who manages like street fairs. Mike Bell. He manages like, Hermosa, 

Tony Barthel

Shout out Mike 

Peggy Barthel

Hermosa Street Fair. I, I think it's got another, 

Tony Barthel

Oh, he did the LA Marathon. But he did a bunch of events. He 

Peggy Barthel

Does a lot of things. And so in order to stay on site the whole time to manage these things, he would rent our pop-up trailer from us. And so he had that as kind of an office in Sleeping Quarters. And eventually then we decided that we wanted to have a bed and breakfast. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

So if 

Tony Barthel

You ever get the mood to buy a bread and breakfast, not so sure. That's a great idea. Sleep 

Peggy Barthel

On it. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. Sleep on it. Well, and that was 2008 when we bought it. It was 2008. Bad timing. 

Peggy Barthel

It was kind of a bad timing. But we, at the time that we bought the bed and breakfast and we, we relocated from southern to Northern California and we knew that owning a bed and breakfast meant we were not gonna be taking time off to go camping anytime soon. 

Tony Barthel

Sometimes we would swap other B&Bs for rooms though. Right. 

Peggy Barthel

We did do 

Tony Barthel

Some, like, we'd go there and they'd come ours, 

Peggy Barthel

But we sold, then we sold Mike that travel, that pop-up trailer Yep. So that it would still get some good use. And he got a lot of good years out. Yeah. He now he has a regular kind of travel trailer. Yeah. So we like to think that we got, you know, we introduced him to the, to the RV life. 

Tony Barthel

There was a few times I worked with Mike and we all called ourselves Carnies. 

Peggy Barthel

Carnies. Yeah. So we owned the bed and breakfast for about seven years. We really didn't camp in that 

Tony Barthel

Time. No, we didn't. 

Peggy Barthel

We traveled a little bit in the, like in the off season we would, you know, run back down to Southern California where it was warmer, but, you know, not camping. We would just do other things. And then 

Tony Barthel

We did a lot of cruising. Well, not a lot, but that's a lot of what we did on those. We'd go in January and cruise and go on cruise ships. And that's about the time podcasting started. 

Peggy Barthel

Right. So I don't remember the years that you had your first podcast. 

Tony Barthel

I don't either. Well, I'm, oh, I do, because I just reposted the first one. But those were the years that, you know, it was kind of starting to happen. I started listening to John and Kathy Huggins, Livin RV Dream, Livin 

Peggy Barthel

The RV Dream. 

Tony Barthel

And, and there were a few others. And then I started listening also to Girl Camper. Right. And I felt kind of like, eh, I shouldn't be listening to this, but I did. And I, I thought it was great. And I'm like, I like this podcasting thing. 

Peggy Barthel

Yeah. But you also have a lifetime of listening to like talk radio. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. My mom. Right. 

Peggy Barthel

That's the way that you, that's your entertainment source is top radio. 

Tony Barthel

My mom would listen to on a transistor radio, she'd walk around the house and listen to KBC in Los Angeles. And then I listened to KBC in Los Angeles and I was like, that talk format. There was a dude, Michael Jackson, who, who was a good, no, not that I did for Michael Jackson, but of course that happened a lot because the same name. But this guy would interview all kinds of Newsmakers and he was a really good interviewer. Yep. 

Peggy Barthel

Michael Jackson. 

Tony Barthel

So anyway, I, I always liked that talk format. 

Peggy Barthel

Yeah. My mom would listen to her eight tracks of 1970s country and Western music. So that's what I grew up on. 

Speaker 1

Yeah. Okay. 

Peggy Barthel

So I still, you know, of course really love music. But anyway, podcasting was kind of new and fresh and we were, we were thinking and trying and doing, selling the bed-and-breakfast in those few years. And But you also had another podcast? 

Tony Barthel

Yeah, so I had the curbside classic car show, which kind of dovetailed into the curbside online car show calendar and the curbside, you know, I did a lot of stuff in the world of classic cars at that point. And so my buddy Jim Cherry and I had the curbside classic car and I'm starting to, you know, I dug them up. And today I reposted episode one of the curbside Classic Car podcast. Oh right. And it's kind of interesting to listen. 

Tony Barthel

And I listened to it and it was, it was interesting. One of the things we talked about the automobile driving museum, which unfortunately recently closed. Yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

And 

Tony Barthel

As a matter of fact, last weekend they had their yard sale and sold off a bunch of stuff. I wonder what happened to that 61 Corvair. 

Peggy Barthel

Yeah. 

Tony Barthel

'cause that thing was beautiful 

Peggy Barthel

That you donated Right? Know. 

Tony Barthel

No, we don't. It is something else 

Peggy Barthel

There. I'm sorry. That was the Volkswagen. Sorry. So anyway, so Tony had that, that talk radio history growing up and listening. And then he had the podcast history and he had, you know, I think he said he wrote re he wrote reviews, but of kind of pre-production or brand new models of cars. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. I gotta go to the auto shows and stuff and meet with all the car manufacturers. It was, it was kind of fun. Yeah. And so, 

Peggy Barthel

So then we had the bed and breakfast and that's kind of what we did was the bed and breakfast. And after we sold the bed and breakfast, Tony did some county marketing. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. I worked 

Peggy Barthel

And things like that. So he is done a lot of different things. He built a lot of websites in that time period for different companies, especially around the area where we had the bed and breakfast. And I, you know, worked at the county. Worked at the county. But we saw that. 

Tony Barthel

Well yeah, eventually then the county gig dried up. And so I was like, eh, I'll see what, what's out there. And I saw a job at Redwood Empire RVs and we were at a car show when I talked to Perry. Yes. The owner, 

Peggy Barthel

Tony had gone for an interview and then we were at a car show, well I think it was airplanes or something. 

Tony Barthel

It was the Wings, Wheels and Rotors. Yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

Car 

Tony Barthel

Show. 

Peggy Barthel

He got the call from Perry. So we're like wandering around and he's talking to this guy and he said, well, do you wanna come work for me? I'm like, sure. And I don't even really know what's going on. Right. <laugh>. 

Tony Barthel

Right. 

Peggy Barthel

He is like, I just got a job. 

Tony Barthel

I just got a job at an RV dealership. And so I worked there for a few years and I, I thought it was neat. But some of the shocking things to me was that a lot of the people that I interacted with from the RV industry didn't go RVing. 

Peggy Barthel

Go RVing. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. It's so, it was just so foreign to me. Now 

Peggy Barthel

I think we kind of skipped a little bit. 

Tony Barthel

Did we? Okay. Before 

Peggy Barthel

You got the job, we bought our first travel trailer. 

Tony Barthel

Oh dear. Yeah. That's our 

Peggy Barthel

First Mini-Lite. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

Yeah. 

Tony Barthel

We bought our first Rockwood Mini. 

Peggy Barthel

We really should have have written a timeline. Oh, we did. 

Tony Barthel

Oh, we did just 

Peggy Barthel

Keep forgetting to look at it. 

Tony Barthel

Right. 

Peggy Barthel

So in 2016, in December, we, we, and, and I'll tell you that every time we were on a highway and there was a dealership. 

Speaker 1

Yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

We'd look at our watches and say, yeah, we have an hour. And we would stop and we would, you know, take you through all the travel 

Tony Barthel

Trailers. We looked at travel trailer, so many, many RVs. 

Peggy Barthel

We looked at a lot of RVs. Which is good because then you really know it 

Tony Barthel

Was fun 

Peggy Barthel

What you're picking. Right? Yeah. 

Tony Barthel

And so 

Peggy Barthel

In December of 2016, we finally made a decision, this is a great, I love this story. We were there to, you know, 

Tony Barthel

At the dealership. 

Peggy Barthel

At the dealership to, 

Tony Barthel

But not the one I worked at. No, 

Peggy Barthel

No. A different dealership. We didn't know about his dealership at that time. Yeah. 

Tony Barthel

Which is odd. 

Peggy Barthel

And so we were there. 

Tony Barthel

No, we did. I said I want, oh, we went and I said, I want something with a Murphy bed and a single axle. And Perry goes, well we don't have any of that. Oh, 

Peggy Barthel

Okay. Oh, okay. 

Tony Barthel

I remember that. Oh yeah. I 

Peggy Barthel

Had been there because I know we had been to the one that had a lot of really small travel trailers Right next door. A a few, a couple times as well. So, okay. So we were there to buy our travel trailer. We're signing the papers and you know, talking to the finance and all that stuff. And we're waiting to go in the finance office. And out of the finance office walks our friends, Joe and Jackie. 

Speaker 1

Yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

We had no idea that they were travel trailer people. No idea they were buying one. No idea that they bought the same brand that we bought 

Tony Barthel

A Rockwood 

Peggy Barthel

And they picked it up the day that we did our initial, like two days before we got ours. 

Speaker 1

Yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

So that was really cool. And then our friends, Dave and Stacey camp at the, they, they were the ones that kind of started our camp at the beach on Christmas. 

Speaker 1

Yep. 

Peggy Barthel

And they said, Hey, we're gonna be at Doran Regional Park over Christmas, you know, see if you can fit, get a space. Well that place, like you have to get a space a year in advance. So we thought, well that's not gonna happen. But I got online and I found a spot that had been, you know, canceled or whatever. So it was empty spot. It was like in the very next loop from where Dave and Stacey were. Which is good. 'cause there's like two miles of campground. It could have been a really far distance. Yeah. It's 

Tony Barthel

A fairly decent sort of place. 

Peggy Barthel

And so our first weekend, our first Christmas after having a travel trailer, we blossomed, bloomed the, we camp at the beach on Christmas. 

Tony Barthel

And that was actually, not only was it No, no. It was our second time camping. 'cause we went from the dealership to Clear Lake Campground. 

Peggy Barthel

Yes. 

Tony Barthel

And spent the first night there. 

Peggy Barthel

Yep. 

Tony Barthel

And then, then we did the camping at the beach and I bought solar panels. 'cause there's no power at that's, there's no services there whatsoever. That's, so I bought these two 80 watt solar panels. 

Peggy Barthel

So that was our second camping trip. And then after, I don't remember if that, I don't think that very first year that we went to court site in January. I think we didn't do that. 

Tony Barthel

He 

Peggy Barthel

Was 19. So a couple years later 

Tony Barthel

I had already worked at the dealership. Oh, that's right. 'cause Perry was like, are you gonna go there and sell RVs? 

Peggy Barthel

That's right. That's right. So then we, you know, we were weekenders we would go camping at the local state park or at the beach or, you know, with our local friends and in, 

Tony Barthel

In northern California near where we were. There are some spectacular places to go camping. 

Peggy Barthel

Absolutely. Then we, then when Tony had the job at the dealership, there may be more to this story, but basically we became really close with Monia who still works there. 

Tony Barthel

Yep. 

Peggy Barthel

And she is a avid RVer. 

Tony Barthel

Well that was one of the things that helped me get the job there was we were RVers and understood the RV industry. Well I understood RVing, 

Peggy Barthel

Unlike a lot of dealerships who hire people who can sell, Perry likes to hire people who understand RVing. Yeah. 

Tony Barthel

If you ever need an RV and you're in Northern California, two thumbs up to Redwood Empire RVs. Good people there. 

Peggy Barthel

So you had a job there for a couple years. Yeah, we spent some weekend camping. We, you know, we just had our day jobs, our, you know 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

Regular jobs camp. When we kept, 

Tony Barthel

I kept hearing the same questions. People would come in asking the same questions over and over and over again. I should also say that the dealership, Redwood is small enough that I not only did sales, but I helped with the warranties too. So that was also eye-opening, talking to the reps, handling the warranties, and of course talking to customers. And I kept hearing the same question over and over and over again. And I'm like, Doc, somebody should answer these questions and make a website where these questions get answered and, and all of that. 

Tony Barthel

And somehow have them be verifiable. Right. Not just, hey, this is my opinion. But, you know, so I started to develop contacts in the RV industry and somehow I got a whole contact list for Forest River. I don't know how I did, but then I started reaching out and then it expanded to Thor. And finally I said to Peggy, I think I'm gonna quit my job and I am going to start this whole website and write in about, well, 

Peggy Barthel

But you actually started the website about a year before 

Tony Barthel

You quit your job. Yeah, I think you're right. You're right. Yeah. You were on the website 

Peggy Barthel

For quite a while before you left the dealership. And so like, I'd say about a year. 

Tony Barthel

Okay. 

Peggy Barthel

Because I know it was in 

Tony Barthel

Yeah, you're right. In 

Peggy Barthel

February of 2018 when we chose the name for the website. 

Tony Barthel

Yes, that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

We did, with the help of Leanne, 

Tony Barthel

Leanne, we were like, what should we call it? What should we call it? 

Peggy Barthel

We were on a road trip. We were all together in the car. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. Us and our friend Leanne and her daughter and your 

Peggy Barthel

Daughter Tia. And we were like, trying to come up with names, trying to be clever, and everybody's kind of throwing out things and throwing out words. And Leanne said, stress-less camping. And I was like on the, on the phone. Like, that is not existing website. Let's buy it. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. So we bought the domain. Right. While we're driving 

Peggy Barthel

Down the highway, I bought 

Tony Barthel

Somewhere between Northern California and Southern California on the, on the 15 

Peggy Barthel

Five 

Tony Barthel

Or on the five brother. Yep. On the 

Peggy Barthel

Street. Five. Yep. 

Tony Barthel

So, 

Peggy Barthel

So a website was born. 

Tony Barthel

It was. And, and it, and 

Peggy Barthel

He did, so Tony did that on his, you know, when he wasn't at work and I still worked for the county. And then around, or kind of springtime, I guess 2019, Tony had had the podcast with the cars. And that, I 

Tony Barthel

Can't remember that had stopped. Yeah. I started the podcast with Jim. 

Peggy Barthel

Yeah. 

Tony Barthel

Well it was, it was 2022 was the, no, that can't be. 

Peggy Barthel

I don't think so. But anyway, I know you were, I know you were, we were in the Kelseyville house, which 

Tony Barthel

Right. We had the Kelseyville house, 

Peggy Barthel

But, which not to most people, but, so it was after 2018 you were still podcasting with Jim and in 2019 you said, let's have a podcast. Well, I understood what a podcast was. I had no idea what I had forced 

Tony Barthel

Her to listen to plenty of them. 

Peggy Barthel

But, you know, the point was basically he just wanted to add my voice to his podcast in, in a kind of a way. Right. Like it was his baby. It was his thing. And so I said, yeah, sure, why not? I'll talk with you. It took me a while to get comfortable, you know, and we didn't do video back then. 

Tony Barthel

Oh gosh. 

Peggy Barthel

We only did our 

Tony Barthel

Audio. No, no, no 

Peggy Barthel

Audio. And so even just to know that I was wearing a microphone, I'd have a little bit of trouble getting comfortable. Hard to believe now. Right. I would like be, hi, this is Jarcelle's camping. And he said, you have to smile. You have to, you, I need to hear the happiness. You can 

Tony Barthel

Hear the smile on, on a face. 

Peggy Barthel

And so just before I started talking, he would reach over and poke me in the ribs and I'd kind of go, whoo. Hi. Yep. 

Tony Barthel

Worked. 

Peggy Barthel

And that's how I learned to, to have a, 

Tony Barthel

I had always better 

Peggy Barthel

Microphone voice. 

Tony Barthel

I had always been very comfortable on the microphone. 

Peggy Barthel

Yeah. And as you know, he had been a, a 

Tony Barthel

DJ. Yeah. I worked as DJ DJing and all that 

Peggy Barthel

DJ for a lot of events and stuff. So he, he knew how to work a microphone and I just didn't. So 

Tony Barthel

I have a face for radio. Yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

There's that. Now while we're on YouTube. But, so let's see, that was kind of tangled up a little bit. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

So in July of 2019 was episode zero and episode one July 11, 7 11 was our Oh, that's right. 

Speaker 1

Yeah, 

Tony Barthel

Yeah, yeah. That 

Peggy Barthel

Was our beginning episode. And that was 300 episodes ago. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. Crazy. 

Peggy Barthel

That was four trailers ago. 

Tony Barthel

Four trailers, 300. Well five if you count the aristocrat. 'cause we bought a vintage trailer as a second trailer in 

Peggy Barthel

About 2020 or 21. We bought a vintage trailer. 

Tony Barthel

And oh, you know what else we didn't mention was the Corvair van. 

Peggy Barthel

Right, that's true. 

Tony Barthel

We had the Corvair van. Typical. 

Peggy Barthel

That was a camper. Although we never went camping in it. We tried camping in the yard in it one time. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. And I realized then that none of the interior door handles in the back worked. And I'm like, this is kind of, he 

Peggy Barthel

Thought he was, he felt trapped. And I did. It's pretty small. I mean, it was an old, you know, 

Tony Barthel

60 van. Well it was, yeah. It was a size of a VW van. 

Peggy Barthel

It was pretty tiny in there. But we tried. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. We 

Peggy Barthel

Never did camp in it, but we used it for a lot of day trips. 

Tony Barthel

Oh. Went to a lot of car shows in that Corvair 

Peggy Barthel

And a lot of drive-in movies. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. Oh yeah. There was a drive-in movie in Lake County if you're ever up there. 

Peggy Barthel

Yeah. So, so then in 2022 we had a wild year. I'm gonna see how quickly we can recap it. We put our house for sale in May, April or May. We packed everything into either storage or the back of our camper shell truck. Truck. Shell not 

Tony Barthel

Camper. 

Peggy Barthel

Yeah. The pickup. But the, 

Tony Barthel

Well you can't see it. 

Peggy Barthel

The shell on the truck. And we took off, oh, I guess I have to back up a little bit. In February of 2022, the original travel trailer, the one we bought in 2016, had a little minor accident. It hit, we hit a bump and it broke the frame. And we were no, it was no longer safe to take camping. Yeah. It lives on as a guest house. 

Tony Barthel

Our friend house. Yeah. And a walnut orchard. 

Peggy Barthel

And a walnut orchard. But we were not able to use that to go camping anymore. And that was in February. And we had done a trip in 2021 where we did all of Route 66. Yeah. So we were on the road for a couple of months and I said, you know, perhaps 19 feet isn't quite enough to spend this much time together. 

Tony Barthel

And that's when we, we had already started the Facebook group four Rockwood and Flagstaff. 

Peggy Barthel

Yes. 

Tony Barthel

And we were pretty much a known entity there. And so when we were shopping around, a couple of brands had actually said, Hey, we want you to be our brand ambassador. We're like, yeah, but we really like this Rockwood and Flagstaff line a lot. And we got to talking to the Rockwood folks and bing bang boom. We became brand ambassadors and we bought a 20 22, 22 0 5 was, 

Peggy Barthel

That was a tongue twister. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. It was the first, it was a prototype of their power package. Yep. 

Peggy Barthel

Through 

Tony Barthel

ABC Upfitters, who I think you may have heard us talk about before. 

Peggy Barthel

You might have mentioned, we might have mentioned ABC Upfitters. Yeah. Once or twice. Once or twice. So we had, we bought that trailer in May. We drove to Indiana and picked it up. We had that, a couple other prototype things. But all that prototype of the ABC Upfitters, you know, or the, the power package that ABC Upfitters puts in, they were building them, or they were working on making things that Rockwood could drop in as they built the, the travel trailers. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. So when we picked up that trailer, is the first time we met ABC Upfitters. Now would probably be a great time to talk about them a little bit. We should. 

Peggy Barthel

I think so. 

Tony Barthel

And they had this prototype, well, with Rockwood, they knew we liked to camp off the grid. And they're like, Hey, not only you know, would we like you to be our brand ambassadors? How'd you like to try this new power package? Oh, okay, 

Peggy Barthel

Sure. Why not. 

Tony Barthel

And so that's when we met the team from ABC Upfitters and met the team from Mastervolt and learned just how all these systems work together. And the more we found out, the more impressed we were with this package that really communicates well with itself. It's all one source. And just that system worked so well in that trailer that we became fans and started working with ABC Upfitters and found out that they had plans to be able to offer these systems to more than just Rockwood and Flagstaff. 

Tony Barthel

In fact, they had, they had talked to some other RV manufacturers as well, and were working with them. So it was a company that the RV manufacturers trust and the experience we had was outstanding. And we became partners with ABC Upfitters and have been big fans. And of course, as we always say, if you are looking for a reliable solar and lithium system for your RV, ABC Upfitters is a great company to work with. 

Peggy Barthel

Yep. 

Tony Barthel

They do custom installations. They listen to what you want, they work with you. They're reliable. They do a masterful job of putting these systems together. 

Peggy Barthel

A masterful job with Mastervolt components. 

Tony Barthel

Oh, I like it. That just works. 

Peggy Barthel

That just works. 

Tony Barthel

So, and, 

Peggy Barthel

And so one of the great things about using Mastervolt, you know, I didn't realize the extent of this being true. The battery is Mastervolt, the charge controller is Mastervolt. The inverter is Mastervolt, the plugs, the wires, the everything. Right. So there's no piecemealing anything. It all is made to work together 

Tony Barthel

And no finger pointing. Which a lot of times, you know, you could get great stuff, but if you know Brand A built this piece and Brand B built that piece and you have an issue, they're each gonna be Yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

They're gonna blame the other. Right. 

Tony Barthel

And that's not true there. So, so one installer, one manufacturer, it's all good stuff. So if that's something that you're interested in, 5, 7, 4, 3, 3, 3, 3, 2, 2 5, 

Peggy Barthel

That's 5, 7, 4, 3, 3, 3, 3, 2, 2 5. Give ABC Upfitters a call and ask them about getting your own solar package installed. 

Tony Barthel

And look at, there's a link on our website, which we'll put down below or in the show notes and look at some of the other things they're starting to offer in terms of 

Peggy Barthel

Lighting. Yes. Yes. 

Tony Barthel

They're doing some pretty cool stuff. Anyway. 

Peggy Barthel

Anyway, so we had that first travel trailer that, well, second travel trailer, the 20 22, 22 0 5 tongue twister. We had that from May. And when we picked it up in May, Rockwood said, now we're not quite ready to talk about this yet. 

Speaker 1

Yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

Which was hilarious because Ben from ABC looked at me and said, well, we are. 

Speaker 1

Yeah. 

Tony Barthel

Right. 

Peggy Barthel

So we kept hush hush, except to our friends that were 

Tony Barthel

With gigantic sticker on the back of our trailer. ABC 

Peggy Barthel

Had put a giant sticker on the back of the trailer. This is true. But we didn't, you know, we didn't talk about it on the podcast. We didn't make it, you know, public. If we were camping with someone, we'd be like, you wanna see? 

Tony Barthel

Check, check this out. 

Peggy Barthel

And so they got a little pre preview. But anyway, in August, then we went back to Indiana for the Frog Rally. That's for Forest River owners group. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. If you have a Forest River trailer, you a Forest River RV rather, you can be part of this group. 

Peggy Barthel

That's right. And so we went there for the rally, the international Rally in August. And when we were there, that's when Rockwood said, you are, we're a comfortable with you talking about the ABC system. We're going to start carrying the ABC system as an option in our manufactured trailers. And so we interviewed Ben and Stacey right. At the fairgrounds with the, 

Tony Barthel

With the lawnmower guy 

Peggy Barthel

In the background. And anyway. And so we really, really enjoyed that. We have loved that relationship and that, so that trailer had the prototype, that trailer now we're still in 2022. Mind you, that trailer was also totaled. 

Speaker 1

Yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

By being rear-ended while we were waiting for some construction on a highway in Kansas. 

Speaker 1

Yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

So now we don't have a 20 22, 22 0 5. 

Tony Barthel

That was a, that was a tough call to make. I, I remember 

Peggy Barthel

Calling 

Tony Barthel

My friends at Rockwood and I'm like, you're not gonna believe this. Yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

Because what are they? You know, they, we worked with them to get that as a brand ambassador and we said, what do we do? And they said, well, this has never happened before. We don't know what 

Tony Barthel

To do. Yeah. We were literally the figure this out. Yeah. We're the first Forest River brand ambassadors Yeah. To have destroyed a for a trailer. We were 

Peggy Barthel

Among of the first Forest River brand ambassadors, I 

Tony Barthel

Think. Well that, yeah. And then we're the first ones to destroy a, first 

Peggy Barthel

One to need to replace our trailer. So luckily we had, you know, put out good insurance on it. We got a, we ended up in December of 2022, getting a 20 23, 22 0 5 s. 

Tony Barthel

Yep. 

Peggy Barthel

By the way, remember how I said we put our house for sale? 

Tony Barthel

Oh yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

So that was in May. In all, basically all of July, we lived in my sister's driveway in our new travel trailer. We bought a house in August, September, you know, signed the paperwork, went to the frog rally, came back for closing escrow. It was a wild ride, then lost that trailer. Then went back in December to pick up the second 2205, which we said, oh, yay. Now we have a trailer that we are gonna keep until we went to the Frog rally in 

Tony Barthel

2024. Four. Well, that year, 20 that year we had two trailers, no, three, right. Yeah. We really had three trailers. 

Peggy Barthel

Three trailers. We 

Tony Barthel

Also sold a house in California because of the trailer to register it, we had to become South Dakota residents. 

Peggy Barthel

Right. 

Tony Barthel

My accountant that I had had since I was, I don't know, a long, long, long time, just up and quit. He's like, well, retired. 

Peggy Barthel

He retired. 

Tony Barthel

Well, right. He's like, I'm done. 

Peggy Barthel

But, so we had, we had three trailers, we had three residence states because 

Tony Barthel

Mexico Yeah. We, residents of states. 

Peggy Barthel

We had, we did not change vehicles that year, but, you know, we kind of changed 

Tony Barthel

Just about everything else. We started 

Peggy Barthel

Doing a lot more travel for our business and all these things happened. And then, like Tony said, we lost our accountant, we lost our tax man. So we had to hire a new person 

Tony Barthel

Who we left and explain. Yeah, she's been great 

Peggy Barthel

Taxes. But we're like, okay, this isn't always gonna happen. Check. But we have three residences and three RVs and beside 

Tony Barthel

And watch this. 

Peggy Barthel

So what a crazy year. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

That was, 

Tony Barthel

So anyway, sorry, back to the Frog rally. That's 

Peggy Barthel

Okay. So things kind of calm down after that. We had a couple of really great years. We did a lot of traveling. We did, you know, 105 episodes or whatever in two years, whatever that time period was. And you know, I mean, you kind of have followed, if you have followed along, you kind of know what we've done. We haven't done anything life changing, like changing states or selling our houses or anything like that. And we were recently, we were going on pretty Steady and doing really great things. 

Peggy Barthel

And then we went to the Frog Rally in 2024. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

And Tony, one of his, you know, kind of passions and, and jobs is writing reviews. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. We, I write a fair number of reviews of reviews for a number of other people in, in addition to Stressless camping, you'll find RV reviews there. But I write reviews for a number of people. So we're Rolling through the various Forest River units. 

Peggy Barthel

We were gonna review everything that Forest River had on display of the 

Tony Barthel

Near at the Frog rally. They bring new units for us to, for people to check out. 

Peggy Barthel

So we went in this one and we went in that one, and we went in some Class C's and we went in some Rpods and we went in some those big destination things. And we, you know, and we were just review, review, review. And we walked into the mini light 25 0 6 FK Front kitchen. And, 

Tony Barthel

And they had this floor planned before, but it was different. 

Peggy Barthel

It was different. 

Tony Barthel

The bed was placed in, it was 

Peggy Barthel

East-west, 

Tony Barthel

East, west instead of in a slide. Right. And no, not in a slide. Oh. But they had an outdoor kitchen underneath it. Oh, right. And this long storage drawer at the back. So what they did is they twisted the bed 90 degrees and it runs parallel to the, you know, to the chassis. And they put the bath in the middle to split the front and back of the trailer. 

Peggy Barthel

Well, the bath was essentially in the same place, but it used to be a bathroom on the left and a hallway on the right. 

Speaker 1

Right. 

Peggy Barthel

Correct. And what they did was make the bathroom go all the way across the trailer, so you pass through the bathroom to get to the bedroom. Some people hate that idea. Well, and I get it, but we, you know, why we love the idea is that we don't keep the same sleep schedule. And to be able to, one of the, one of the, like one of the two things that we didn't love about the 2205 s was that there was not a lot of separation for sleeping and making noise, you know, working or grinding coffee and things like that. 

Peggy Barthel

And so there was a curtain and that was it. And Tony was always uncomfortable getting up early and trying to be real quiet. So it didn't wake me up. And so we love the fact that there is complete separation now from living space to bedroom space with two sets of door, you know, a bathroom 

Tony Barthel

Door, bathroom, bathroom door, and a bathroom sliding door. There are also two door doors on the outside. 

Peggy Barthel

It was outside doors. But we sat in that dinette saying, you know, as perfect as the trailer is that we have this trailer solves those like two little niggly problems that we have. 

Tony Barthel

Well, and something I think a few of you who followed our little journey here know, is that at one point I had seriously considered building a custom trailer, starting with a cargo trailer. 

Peggy Barthel

Yes. 

Tony Barthel

And the floor plan that I kinda worked out is this floor plan, this is 

Peggy Barthel

This floor plan. 

Tony Barthel

So I'm like, oh, I don't have to, that's, I don't have to do that. I was, someone did it for me 

Peggy Barthel

Happy. I was so happy the day we were driving around and he said, you know, I no longer have to worry about, or, or think about building a cargo van in exactly the floor plan because they have made us the exact floor plan that we wanted. And so we 

Tony Barthel

Was like, oh, 

Peggy Barthel

Yay. So we have been so happy with this. And we've talked about the 25 6 quite a bit. 

Tony Barthel

So you can see our review. It's 

Peggy Barthel

So, you know, and through all those things, every single Monday or Tuesday or Wednesday, hopefully not Wednesday, very often we sit down on with mics and now in front of a camera 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

And kind of update you on what's going on. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. We try to have tips and tricks and discounts and all of that. Yes. But we thought, you know, people have asked us about the origin story and all that. Yeah. So we thought for our 300th episode, we'd share a little bit about us, how 

Peggy Barthel

We wound up here. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. And I mean, we, we keep doing some interesting stuff. Last week we were speaking at the FR VA convention. We are in Texas at the moment, and we just taught a class for a group of women through Girl Camper, which is a really neat organization. So we taught our RV basic training class to a whole group of women. And the campground here has talked to us about offering it for their, having us come back, having Yeah. 

Tony Barthel

Having us come back, having, 

Peggy Barthel

Having the campground will organize this kind, this, you know, setup for us to teach again. I, I have, I don't know, a light bulb went on this last week. And this is the part I love the best, 

Tony Barthel

Is doing the classes. 

Peggy Barthel

Doing the classes as a part I love the best. That's interesting. So I actually, you guys, I don't think we've done it in a quite a while, but, you know, there was a good amount of time that whenever we had a guest on, which is as often as we can, because well, when we find 

Tony Barthel

Guests that we really like, we, you 

Peggy Barthel

Know, are people Yeah. Are people who are way more knowledgeable about a lot of topics than we are. So we love to have them come and tell us their expertise. We spring at the end of them, at the end of the, of the interview, we spring on them. The question, what, you know, have, what is your best or what is your worst memory about camping? And so I reworded that for ourselves. And I said, I I wanted to ask, what is your most favorite as best as part about, I don't know, being a podcaster or being Stressless camping and what is your least favorite? 

Tony Barthel

Favorite is absolutely being, being in and speaking to groups. I love speaking in public to America's one of America's biggest fears and one of my greatest joys. And the worst is just any RV repairs on the road. You know, just the, just those little things that all of us have to deal with. It's like, yeah, I wanna just enjoy this and I don't wanna fix plumbing or whatever. Right. So that's mine. How about yours? 

Peggy Barthel

So I have realized that this is my favorite. Being able to teach, not just speak in front of people. I don't care about speaking in front of people. I want to, to teach them. I want to be in front of a group of people and tell them something and have someone eyes go, I finally get it. You know? And that happens in, in pretty much all of our classes. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. 

Peggy Barthel

I see a light click on in somebody in, you know, someone out there. And that to me is the, the most wonderful th i, 

Tony Barthel

It's the most 

Peggy Barthel

I am not by design an entrepreneur. 

Tony Barthel

Nope. 

Peggy Barthel

I would, if I didn't know Tony, and if Tony didn't say, let's have a business together, I would be an employee somewhere. 

Speaker 1

Yep. 

Peggy Barthel

That is my personality. That's who I am. I love that Tony got me outta my comfort zone. We do this business together, we get to travel and we get to work together. I love it. And I especially love when I know that I have, I have helped somebody in a way that they're not gonna forget. And I absolutely love that. 

Tony Barthel

That's pretty cool. 

Peggy Barthel

And probably the part I like the least is the weeks that it's Wednesday morning and we still dunno what we're gonna do 

Speaker 1

For 

Peggy Barthel

Our podcast. 

Speaker 1

And 

Peggy Barthel

We have to get it done in the next 12 hours. And it's a rush and it's stressful or, you know, the 

Tony Barthel

Computer, I mean, it's not stress less, 

Peggy Barthel

It's not stress less or the computer glitches and I have to restart something that I've done. And that's happened a few times. And it's just the, you know, just the, the running a business part, you know? Huh. It's not something that I, it's not something that comes naturally to me, and it's something that I have to really work on. 

Tony Barthel

I, like Sunday, I have a bunch of articles due to one of the people. I provide articles too. And Sunday night when I've like written all this stuff and it's all ready and I, I post it to where they get it. 

Speaker 1

Oh, shoot. 

Tony Barthel

No, I like it. I'm like, oh, I did it again. Because sometimes it's like, what no wide, wide world of sports am I gonna talk about? Yeah. 

Speaker 1

Yeah. But 

Tony Barthel

I always like, when I have good topics and things, I think will serve people. So, but I do like the, the feeling of, oh, I got more stuff done and, and all of that. So I, I don't, I like waking up early in the morning with a purpose that floats my bow. 

Peggy Barthel

I like getting up when I want to and having some coffee. And then Tony has put us in car terms. He's like a, like a, a dragster, like a a, what is it called? Drag Race. Like, like he takes off shoo and he goes 

Tony Barthel

From, yeah, I wake up, I'm like, on minute 

Peggy Barthel

One he's on 

Tony Barthel

And 

Peggy Barthel

He gets up and he starts writing, he starts working. And I like a diesel, I sludge out of the bedroom and I Grumble over my first cup of coffee and I finally wake up. But, you know, once I get started, if I have to, I will chug along until bedtime. Like, if that's what it takes to get the job done, I'll do it. And Tony's like, shoo. And then he says, oh, that's it. 

Tony Barthel

I warm myself. Yeah. About three in the afternoon, I'm done something. So that's just, yeah. And, and you know 

Peggy Barthel

What, that works because that way you get your quiet time. I get my work time, you know, separate time and we get some time to do things together. And I think it all works out for us. 

Tony Barthel

It's Stressless campaign 

Peggy Barthel

Stressless camping. 

Tony Barthel

Well, that's what we have for you this week. Hopefully you enjoyed being on our journey. And don't forget as always to like, share and subscribe. Let us know what you think of our new song. 

Peggy Barthel

Yeah. 

Tony Barthel

And look for us in all the places where you like being social on Instagram and Facebook and Tik-tok and on and on and on. We're all, we're all in those places. 

Peggy Barthel

Go on the website and sign up for our newsletters. Yeah. We can remind you every week that we got something to say. 

Tony Barthel

Yep. And we, we really appreciate, I mean, some of you have been with us on this entire journey. 

Speaker 1

Yep. 

Tony Barthel

But we appreciate whether you've been here for one episode or all 300, thank you so much for being part of our little world here. We hope our goal has always been to provide as much value as we can to you. 

Peggy Barthel

Yes. 

Tony Barthel

And to bring information that is helpful and, and hopefully somewhat entertaining too, whether you're laughing at us or with us. But with that, thank you so much. Also, thank you, Robert, for your help with our new song and most of all, Stressless Camping. 

Tony Barthel

Do you smell gas? I 

Peggy Barthel

Smell sewer. 

Tony Barthel

Oh, is that what it is? 

Peggy Barthel

Yeah. 

Tony Barthel

Is it open? Oh, it is open. Oh, I'm a dope. 

Peggy Barthel

Are black tanks open? 

Tony Barthel

No, the I didn't, just the white thing. I didn't put the thing on. 

Peggy Barthel

Just the white thing. Okay. 

Tony Barthel

Yeah. Okay. Okay. Sorry. 

Peggy Barthel

We should leave that. We should. There's our blooper. That's our outtake. 

Pianos and pirates and parrots - oh my!

Pianos and pirates and parrots - oh my!

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