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Automated transcript of StressLess Camping RV podcast episode 252

Mark Ferrell

Welcome to the weekly podcast all about turning the great American RV adventure into stress less camping. Each week, we explore tips, tricks, ideas, and destinations, and talk to the happiest campers in the RV world. Pull up a seat at the campfire as we enjoy some stress less camping.

Peggy Barthel

Welcome to Texas. Yeehaw. I'm Tony. I'm Peggy.

Tony Barthel

And we're 2 RV industry veterans who travel part time

Peggy Barthel

Get in a small trailer.

Tony Barthel

Looking to share big adventures and help you with great tips

Peggy Barthel

Tricks.

Tony Barthel

And discounts.

Peggy Barthel

And today, we have a bunch of tricksters, tipsters, come in that are gonna help us. We are at a mini light rally. As you know, we own a mini light. Yeah. And we are here with a bunch of mini light, micro light owners and we thought, hey, as long as we have all these experts here in a group, we might as well pick their brains and find out what they know.

Tony Barthel

You know, we may sound like we know what we're talking about, but we're not so sure. But we have people here who do a lot of traveling, have been a lot of places, and have really good taste in RVs. So we thought we'd get some good ideas that we can share with all of you out there.

Peggy Barthel

So first, I know I've talked to a lot of you about what you have. Who has the oldest mini light that's still here?

Speaker 4

Susan. Susan. I think so.

Tony Barthel

Yeah. See, I told you not to sit off camera. Come on up front so we can

Peggy Barthel

Come and tell us what you what you have.

Tony Barthel

Oh, I like your shot glass on a necklace.

Speaker 4

There's a story behind this.

Tony Barthel

Oh, that's good too. Excellent.

Speaker 4

So we have a 2015, 2104 s. We are the original owners and have loved every minute of it. It's been a lot of fun. During the height of COVID, I was going through chemotherapy, and it was our hotel when I had to travel

Peggy Barthel

Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4

To Houston to go for treatment, and, you know, it was our safe place to stay. So, uh, it it's it's getting up there, but I have a really soft spot in my heart.

Tony Barthel

Absolutely. Well, and it's held up well and done well for you too. Yeah. Yeah. So they're they're great campers.

Tony Barthel

Wait. Wait. I wanna hear the shot glass story. As

Peggy Barthel

long as you're here.

Speaker 5

She has

Tony Barthel

by the way, for those of you okay. 2 things. This is the first of we are now gonna go video every week. We make that commitment to you. Uh, and second, for those of you who are listening on the audio podcast, she has a what looks like a little oh, it's a whole

Peggy Barthel

fly bright.

Tony Barthel

Short glass. And it's got you got blue and white ribbons on it. So that's from Oktoberfest.

Speaker 4

That way. It did. It is from Munich. So every year at the end of this rally, when we're sitting around, we talk about, well, what we wanna do different next time? What might we do?

Speaker 4

Several years ago was the first time I think we did the camper crawl, and me being the shy retiring person that I am suggested, you know what we should do is we should do a shot crawl. So we should go do the do the camper crawl, but each camper has a different shot and shot glasses. Well, apparently me and these 2 were the only people who thought that was a good idea. So that never came to fruition, but Nell and Dan thought this was, uh, a really good idea and they have a son in Germany and she got on the horn with him and said I need shot glasses. And this is the first time we've been back together since that conversation happened and so they brought us these as gifts.

Speaker 4

They are and apparently you can go to something like a a beer crawl or a Wasserl crawl where you go from place to place, and they will fill your shot glass, and you can take your shot Nice. On. So that's what it's

Speaker 6

supposed to do.

Tony Barthel

Like, uh, that sounds awesome.

Peggy Barthel

Yeah.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Tony Barthel

So we were at we were in the hoofae. It was 22.

Peggy Barthel

20 2003. 04 o 4. Yeah.

Speaker 5

2,004. 20 years ago.

Peggy Barthel

20 years ago.

Tony Barthel

And I wanted to hear that song in Minchin State on Hofbrauhaus, and €15 is what they're they're so sick of playing it

Peggy Barthel

in there.

Tony Barthel

It was €15 to hear, but I paid it.

Speaker 7

So

Speaker 4

Yeah. Good. So that's the story.

Peggy Barthel

Actually, thank you. Hey, Susan.

Tony Barthel

So who

Peggy Barthel

has put the most miles? Well, okay, you have to be excluded now or you're gonna be up here all the time. No. I've never Who's put the most miles on? Or who wants to tell us about some big epic long adventure you went on?

Tony Barthel

I saw so many

Speaker 7

light that came in here late, that has got 100 stickers on the

Speaker 6

back of

Peggy Barthel

the house. A 100 stickers on the back.

Speaker 4

Yeah. Now the Johnson's would take that away. They would. Okay.

Tony Barthel

You have been doing this rally for 8 years now.

Speaker 8

This is like something like that. Yeah.

Speaker 6

8 years.

Speaker 8

Different variations of camping.

Peggy Barthel

Yeah.

Tony Barthel

But 8 years now. And last year, it hailed like the Dickens.

Speaker 7

Oh, yeah. Oh, boy.

Speaker 8

Yeah. So big time.

Peggy Barthel

And that was hard to believe yesterday when we got here and it was a 100.

Tony Barthel

Yeah. Although today is not Today

Peggy Barthel

is much nicer.

Speaker 8

That was the 4th hottest April 18th injunction in history.

Peggy Barthel

Oh, boy. Okay. What about

Speaker 5

We came from the farthest.

Tony Barthel

Who came from

Peggy Barthel

Who came the farthest to get here?

Speaker 8

Don. I imagine Don

Peggy Barthel

and Nell. Don and Nell?

Speaker 9

We live in Arizona.

Tony Barthel

Arizona. Oh, yeah. You beat us.

Peggy Barthel

Yep. I mean, technically we came the farthest because we went

Speaker 8

Oh, yeah.

Peggy Barthel

From New Mexico to Louisiana to Kansas to get here. Right. But we don't have the longest drive home. How's that?

Speaker 5

Right. Yeah, you guys do.

Tony Barthel

And how much travel do you do in a year?

Speaker 5

Nell, we need to see you.

Speaker 7

Oh, here

Tony Barthel

it comes. And she's wearing red. We're recording this on a Friday, and normally we would be wearing red also.

Peggy Barthel

We don't have any reds. Everybody to play. Stressless.

Tony Barthel

I don't have a rock Woods shirt in red

Speaker 9

or a

Tony Barthel

stressless shirt.

Speaker 9

Get one. Yeah. Because we remember everyone deploying.

Peggy Barthel

That's right.

Speaker 6

That's right.

Tony Barthel

Every Friday.

Speaker 9

My aged mother lives at my house, which means we don't get to travel as much as we would like. So this is our big trip every year, except last year because he was ill, and we could not. But before that, we would travel short distances, but often. We used to have the same camper she has, 2104 2015, that we bought new on our way from moving from Georgia to Arizona.

Peggy Barthel

Okay.

Speaker 9

But we'd already had a trailer in Arizona. We just kind of fell in love with mini light, so we gotta do it.

Tony Barthel

Sounds good.

Peggy Barthel

Yeah. Some people stopped for brisket sandwich, you stopped and bought a mini light. Yeah. There you go. They had

Speaker 9

all the models it for 2 years, and I got to choose whichever one I want.

Speaker 5

Oh, that's good.

Tony Barthel

So how did everyone decide on a mini light? Were a lot of them

Speaker 9

used to Murphy bed shows.

Peggy Barthel

You wanted a Murphy bed.

Tony Barthel

RV shows. RV shows. Interesting.

Speaker 7

I tell you how I decided on ours. Okay.

Mark Ferrell0

Thank you.

Speaker 7

That's it.

Speaker 8

Well, we narrowed it down. I've I've looked at him for we had a casita, and we went to this RV show on Tony and Linda.

Speaker 7

And I did the research before going. I narrowed it down

Speaker 8

to mini light and a lance. And, uh, that's what I wanted to look at while I was there. So I went there and they

Speaker 7

had we had 2104s. That's what

Speaker 8

we were looking at. And the Lance, whatever the Lance was, went in went in the Lance. The Lance is more expensive, obviously, to start with. Lower ceiling, a flat ceiling, and it just doesn't seem as homey. And we went into the 2104 s.

Speaker 8

The salesman was in there with 7 or 8 other people.

Tony Barthel

Wow. Oh,

Speaker 8

man. This 2 104 s. I said, if he can do that, that's what I want.

Peggy Barthel

Yeah.

Speaker 8

And so we left. Next week, I called him. That's what I want, that exact model there because it was had it everything. It had well, I can't show you that one. I don't want that one.

Tony Barthel

I want a new one.

Speaker 5

Yeah. On it.

Peggy Barthel

I want that hasn't had 7 people partying in.

Speaker 8

That's why really, that's why I bought it. But but the slide out and the couch in there, that many people inside that little thing like that. Oh, yeah. Why not?

Peggy Barthel

Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5

With the Murphy bed.

Speaker 8

And with the Murphy bed, that's that was a seller there. So we got it and they got one and journeyed on.

Tony Barthel

Excellent. So our story so we had this Jayco pop up trailer, and we bought it. A friend of ours was getting a divorce, and the husband told the wife, whatever you get for it, just split with me. So we bought a Jayco pop up trailer for $500, But it was it had seen better days, but we wanted something also with a Murphy bed, and we wanted something a little bit nicer. And for a year, Peggy and I stopped at so many RV dealerships.

Peggy Barthel

Let's say, like 4 years.

Tony Barthel

Yeah. Was it that long?

Peggy Barthel

Before we so we owned a bed and breakfast. We had the pop up, we sold the pop up, bought a bed and breakfast, And for like 3 years, we kinda talked about selling the bed and breakfast. So all that time, every time we were on the road and we saw a dealership and we had an extra half hour, we'd stop and look at trailers. And then after the bed and breakfast sold, then for about the year after that every time we were on the road we'd stop and look at trailers. And we finally found the mini well to be honest we had decided on an R Pod.

Tony Barthel

Or we were at least going there to look

Peggy Barthel

for what

Speaker 6

we wanted. We had got

Peggy Barthel

what we wanted was an R Pod, and we went to the dealership and the man said well now now wait, if you like the R Pod let me show you this. And we walked in the it was a 1905 s, No slide, murphy bed, single axle. They don't even make them that little anymore at Mini Light. And we walked in and said you're right, this is absolutely the one. We saw it for 4 minutes and we were hooked.

Speaker 7

Yep. Yeah.

Peggy Barthel

And the things that we wouldn't have liked about the R Pod that we didn't realize we wouldn't like was the, like, east to west bed. Yeah. And the it was just it was so squishy and

Speaker 8

Well, that's kinda how we got really what motivated me to go to Biggers. We had a casita. We love the casita, but spend a rainy weekend in them. I just like living in your walk in closet for a weekend.

Peggy Barthel

Yeah. So

Speaker 8

I said, do bigger.

Tony Barthel

And I was surprised, we were driving through Texas to get to Texas, and I saw the casita factory.

Speaker 8

Yeah. Oh, rice.

Speaker 5

Rice, Texas.

Tony Barthel

Yeah. They're made right there.

Speaker 6

If I

Tony Barthel

had known, I'd stopped and watched them make them.

Speaker 5

Yep.

Tony Barthel

Yeah. So that was pretty cool.

Peggy Barthel

They're very well made.

Tony Barthel

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Those fiberglass egg trailers are pretty neat.

Speaker 7

Oh, they are.

Tony Barthel

Did you ever go to a fiberglass, like, a egg trailer rally? No. No? Those, I've been told they're fun.

Speaker 5

Well, we had a casita rally here before before we

Peggy Barthel

had the mini light. Before the mini light rally?

Mark Ferrell0

Mike or

Mark Ferrell1

light. Yeah. Yeah.

Tony Barthel

So I wanna hear about the toilet paper contraptions.

Speaker 8

Tony? Tony?

Mark Ferrell2

Tony? Toilet paper thing.

Mark Ferrell0

So we got we went to the RV show at AT and T Stadium, and of course we started with the vendors, and the first vendor we went to, he's got a cabinet door on a stand and there's a slot in it and through that slot is toilet paper and we were like, what's this? And so, he he developed this mechanism that you cut a slot in the door, then this piece fits in that slot, and it's got a flange on the backside that holds it tight with a toilet paper holder. And, you just set the toilet paper on there and then he gives you a little thin piece of plastic that you put through the slot

Peggy Barthel

Feed it?

Mark Ferrell0

Hook the toilet paper on to pull it out. And then when you shut the cabinet door, you don't see the toilet paper holder. All you see is a sheet of toilet paper sticking through the door.

Tony Barthel

Kinda like sticking its tongue out of

Speaker 4

that shit.

Speaker 7

Yeah. It is.

Mark Ferrell0

It's cool. When you haven't got room in the bathroom I

Peggy Barthel

gotta see that.

Mark Ferrell0

It's Yeah. It is neat. Yeah.

Tony Barthel

That we have to we have to see that.

Speaker 7

Yeah. That's something you gotta you can't visualize until you really see the whole thing. Easy.

Tony Barthel

Yeah. And both of you guys bought them. Right?

Speaker 8

Not me.

Tony Barthel

Not you. No. You can't take

Mark Ferrell0

it. Maybe all of 15 minutes to install it. I mean, they give you template, right, and instructions. Put the template on the door and use a pencil to go around the template, and then drill a couple of holes and use your jigsaw.

Peggy Barthel

Just cut your slot.

Mark Ferrell0

Cut it out, sand it off, and stick it on. 15 minutes, and I was done. She couldn't believe it. Her hands were shaking when

Speaker 9

I was cutting the door.

Speaker 5

Yeah. Right?

Tony Barthel

That'd be

Mark Ferrell0

my problem. But, uh, we were his first two customers. He he had just brought it to market. And Fred and I were like, yeah. We'll buy that.

Mark Ferrell0

He took our picture and said, y'all are

Speaker 5

my first too. Alright. Do you

Tony Barthel

have to remember the name of that thing?

Mark Ferrell0

No. But Fred will.

Tony Barthel

Okay. Now, on the same subject, I know you said don't pick you out, but, man, I love your idea about the way you've also done toilet paper. My name is Aaron.

Mark Ferrell1

Uh, we're from Seguin, Texas, and we are very new, uh, with, uh, Rockwood Mini Lights. And we were this is, I think, our 6th trip out in it. We were looking at the, uh, TP situation in the bathroom, where to put it to keep it from getting wet, those kinds of things. I noticed the, uh, flip down door underneath the sink. It seemed like a perfect place to have some type of dispensing going on, but whose roll fits in there.

Mark Ferrell1

So I just changed the size of my roll. I took an electric, uh, drill with a number 2 pencil or a dowel rod and just, uh, resize customized my, uh, roll size. I set it in that, uh, drawer where it feeds off the bottom, comes over and then through the handle, and I didn't have to cut a slot in my

Speaker 7

door. Oh, man.

Speaker 5

We could put 2 rolls Yeah.

Mark Ferrell1

2 mini rolls. And you

Tony Barthel

reroll. You make a roll with the drill. Yes.

Speaker 8

Yeah. Yeah.

Tony Barthel

So that's pretty pictures. Yeah. I yeah. I saw the picture. It's pretty fantastic.

Speaker 4

So you rerolled your toilet?

Mark Ferrell1

Yes, ma'am.

Speaker 6

Yeah.

Speaker 5

Just a smaller roll.

Speaker 6

Just a smaller roll.

Mark Ferrell1

Dow rolled. Dow rolled. Just sat there in the living room.

Peggy Barthel

I made

Speaker 6

about 10

Mark Ferrell1

per trip.

Speaker 4

And you thread on a bobbin.

Peggy Barthel

Yeah. It's

Mark Ferrell0

all it's

Mark Ferrell1

exactly what it is. Like refilling a bobbin on a on a on a sewing machine is

Speaker 7

all it is.

Mark Ferrell1

Except you're getting rid of all that empty space in the middle.

Peggy Barthel

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Tony Barthel

So 2 good toilet paper ideas.

Peggy Barthel

Any other clever toilet paper hacks before we move out of the bathroom?

Mark Ferrell2

Move on to somewhere else.

Peggy Barthel

Somewhere else.

Tony Barthel

Maybe a better room. Any other good hacks that you guys have done or?

Peggy Barthel

Little minor modifications, great big modifications.

Speaker 4

On the the 2104 s, and I think a lot of of us have the the, um, the rail on the outside where you can hook the cable on. Uh-huh. Mhmm. Okay. Ours is so old old that there was no you know, they're they're they now have, like, a a peninsula in the 21 04 s in the kitchen or, uh, and I've seen some folks have actually built a little onto the counter just to the left of the stove.

Speaker 4

Mhmm. What I did is went on trusty Amazon and bought another piece of that rail. We had to cut it to length, but we mounted it just on the side of the cabinet just to your left as you come in the door right by the stove. Now it you can get in and out with that there in place, but that's not what it's for. It's for at night when we're setting up the PC to hook up to the TV to watch our movies.

Speaker 4

We can put that there. You can set that. Also, um, if I'm cooking, I can move my coffee maker from off the counter to this little thing here and still use the

Peggy Barthel

Out of the way. Surface.

Speaker 4

Yeah. So we've we've really enjoyed having that that little option.

Mark Ferrell0

Don, you did a a pop up shelf as well.

Speaker 7

Yeah. Yeah. Yep.

Speaker 8

Not a shelf, but a outlet.

Mark Ferrell0

Didn't you? Yep. Didn't you add a pop up shelf at the end of your cabinet? Yeah.

Speaker 7

Yes. Oh, yeah. Right.

Peggy Barthel

Yep. But you can actually leave yours. Right? We did that in the 1905, that just reminded me because Oh, yeah. We had couple inches of counter space in the 1905.

Peggy Barthel

So we got some of that rail and put it on the end. But because of the Murphy bed, Tony wouldn't have been able to get out of bed unless we took that table off at night and moved it out of the way. It's a really tight squeeze there at the foot of the bed. So you did a similar thing?

Speaker 6

I think I

Speaker 8

can tell you about his, uh, recliner mod.

Speaker 5

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Alright.

Speaker 8

What mod? Your recliners. And what you did Oh, yeah. I have

Speaker 9

a recliner too.

Mark Ferrell2

Name is Don. We have a 250 0 4 s and which we brought 2 years ago. But before that, we had the 2104. And on the end of our kitchen counter, you got the sink, and then there's just a small space after the sink that there's no room to put anything. So they Amazon, they have hinges, a table, or a counter where you can snap up.

Mark Ferrell2

And I put a cutting board on that.

Tony Barthel

Oh, cool.

Mark Ferrell2

So we can drop it down and get through there, then do we bring it up, and we have our grandkids with us. They can sit at that little table to eat. Oh. Or it's an extension from our kitchen sink, so we have to put things. Yeah.

Mark Ferrell2

And, also, by the door, they have a pop up, uh, 1 10 Mhmm. Outlets. We put that in our, uh, countertop. It's it's flush. You tap it, comes up, and you got 2 outlets.

Mark Ferrell2

And the plug in is on the outside of the trailer, drilled a hole, mounted it, so we can bring a 110 cord in from outside and plug it in. And then that circuit is separate from the trailer Circuit. So we can plug in, like, a coffee maker or an Instapot, and we can still use microwave or the AC can continue to run without turn it off and using a, uh, an appliance that takes 20 amps.

Tony Barthel

That's a good idea. Great.

Mark Ferrell2

Let me understand how they build them that way. They have them with the pop up Yeah. 110 and the outlets outside that you 30 amp. Run off of your power pole here, and you just plug it in.

Tony Barthel

Well, having a separate circuit though

Speaker 9

That's amazing.

Tony Barthel

That's good. That's nice. And also, we love these trailers, but those outlets aren't necessarily that good for continuous draw. I've seen them melt in different trailers.

Mark Ferrell2

Those outlets that are in the trailers, I had a problem with when when I pulled it off. They have like a little scissors.

Tony Barthel

Yeah. Yeah. It's self tapping when you

Mark Ferrell2

You slide on. Well, my and mine, the old one, the wires started coming off. I hear buzzing and it wouldn't work right. So I took it out and I put a regular household outlets in it now.

Tony Barthel

Yeah.

Mark Ferrell2

So that they are pushed in or on the mounting screws. So you don't have that problem at all.

Tony Barthel

There's not a lot of contact. It's like a scissors type of thing. It's like a And Yeah.

Mark Ferrell2

Yeah. And they slide on. Yeah.

Mark Ferrell1

Very little, uh,

Mark Ferrell0

surface area

Speaker 8

connection. Right.

Mark Ferrell0

It has to cut through the plastic.

Speaker 6

It has

Mark Ferrell2

to cut through the insulation.

Mark Ferrell1

It's cut through the plastic razor's edge connection on edge of the wire.

Mark Ferrell2

And mine had come loose. And it was buzzing and making a noise. And that's how I found out these were just simply cheap. And one more thing.

Speaker 7

Yeah.

Mark Ferrell2

Go pack, go.

Tony Barthel

Excellent. Aaron, I think you have done a lot of, you know your way around fixing stuff. That seems to be my perception just having met you yesterday. Any other mods folks have?

Speaker 8

We did a real little simple thing to the sink, you know, got the high rise faucet on it. Uh-huh. But not like at home, you don't have that sprayer that you can pull out.

Peggy Barthel

Pull out?

Speaker 8

So Amazon. Look on Amazon. You can buy this little snake thing. Mhmm. Not that long.

Speaker 8

Take the nozzle off of the high rise thing, put

Speaker 6

it on, and

Speaker 8

it goes back and forth like that to both

Peggy Barthel

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Those things.

Speaker 8

And it does spray and strain. Little wiggle nozzle? Yeah. It's about that long. Elsman trunk, we call it.

Speaker 6

Yeah. It

Speaker 8

also has one that just

Speaker 7

you take that out and you spray

Speaker 8

put it right on to the the high rise frame.

Tony Barthel

Didn't you buy that in quartzite?

Peggy Barthel

I bought 1 in quartzite, but it was a different size from the faucet. So I Oh,

Speaker 8

so you can buy

Speaker 6

the faucet.

Speaker 4

I probably

Peggy Barthel

need to find one that's yeah. It works it works great. I got frustrated and got rid of it, so I'll have to get another one.

Tony Barthel

Quartzsite is amazing and silly at the same time. So one of the things we found, we have an over the door paper towel holder that, you know, we bought at, like, Target or whatever, and it just fits over our pantry door in the, uh, 2205, and we Peggy discovered that that fits right in that little TV mount on the outside.

Peggy Barthel

That little kind of v shaped mount?

Speaker 7

Yeah. That

Peggy Barthel

thing just slides right in there.

Tony Barthel

And that's right where your griddle and that little table are, so it works out.

Mark Ferrell0

Yeah. A

Speaker 7

little bracket just lies right in that b notch there. Yeah.

Speaker 6

And you

Speaker 7

hang the fan there.

Tony Barthel

Right.

Speaker 7

It's the hurricane oscillating fan.

Mark Ferrell2

Right. And

Tony Barthel

it probably help alleviate the bugs, which right now, they're they're more than

Speaker 5

them here than us. We put it in our bedroom now.

Speaker 7

Oh, you did? Yeah.

Speaker 6

Mount in

Peggy Barthel

the bedroom.

Speaker 7

Where the TV mount is?

Tony Barthel

Oh, that's okay. I'll do it.

Speaker 7

It's wired for the TV, but the mount's not there. So we put it I I screwed it in there. So we

Peggy Barthel

put it

Speaker 7

in the bedroom.

Speaker 8

That's a

Speaker 7

good idea.

Peggy Barthel

Good idea.

Speaker 9

Yeah. What model do you have now? We have the

Speaker 7

25 FKS, which is a 25 o

Speaker 5

25 0 6.

Speaker 7

Oh, 6. 6. Yeah.

Mark Ferrell2

25 0 6.

Speaker 7

That was

Speaker 5

the 1 I'm covered. Yeah. We Which

Speaker 6

is the

Tony Barthel

front kitchen?

Speaker 8

Front kitchen.

Peggy Barthel

Yeah. Susan's ready. Yeah.

Speaker 7

We the the one before we had was a 2503 and had the Murphy bed

Tony Barthel

Okay.

Speaker 7

With 2 doors.

Speaker 5

I I wanna point out that when we were looking at trailers, there were 2 we liked, And he overrode me, and he we know the first trailer was the trailer that he liked. And what trailer do we have now? The one she likes.

Speaker 8

I'm using the way it works out,

Speaker 6

ain't it?

Tony Barthel

Yeah. It's about Yeah. That's how it works.

Peggy Barthel

Okay. So if none of you can think of them odd, how many people have either changed out your mattress or do you use a mattress topper or do you actually love that hard mattress? Mattress topper. Topper? Topper toppers?

Speaker 9

I changed out

Peggy Barthel

my mattress. You changed it? Okay.

Tony Barthel

It would make sense to me that the RV industry ships product with no mattresses, but then when I I worked at an RV dealership for a few years, and it's amazing if you'd had one in there with no mattress, like it was used, and they're like, why isn't there a mattress in here?

Peggy Barthel

Well, and and he said, well the dealerships could just keep all the different kinds of mattresses. So I said, your dealership the building was as big as a trailer. Yeah. It wasn't trailer. Store all those mattresses.

Speaker 9

We bought used this time, and it didn't come with the mattress.

Peggy Barthel

Okay.

Speaker 9

We bought something for it.

Tony Barthel

I don't know if this is funny or sad, but so a lot of people when they bought trailers from us at the dealership, they would just keep the mattress, it's terrible. So somehow I found out about a women's shelter, and these women had, you know, they had gone through not such great things, and so I asked, hey, do you guys want free mattresses? Oh, yeah. And so I brought them a few, and it didn't take them long to go, yeah, don't bring us those anymore.

Speaker 5

That's a that's

Mark Ferrell2

a great

Tony Barthel

idea. Yeah.

Speaker 4

Thanks so much.

Tony Barthel

Poor women have been through enough already.

Peggy Barthel

So we replaced our mattress. We got a mattress from Ghostbed and my nephew came over, we did some other mods and my nephew came over to help do that. He took the mattress topper off the old mattress and took it home because they live in an RV and he said their mattress was like this. And so they took the topper home, and the next day they came over to pick up the babies and I said, take the mattress. The mattress is way better and with the topper it'll be fine, way better than what you have.

Peggy Barthel

And he said, oh no, with the topper it's perfect. I couldn't even get him to take a few minutes out of this.

Tony Barthel

Yeah. They're pretty bad.

Peggy Barthel

Yeah. There's a small percentage admittedly, but there is a small percentage of people who say they love that hard mattress.

Mark Ferrell2

Well Yeah. Yeah.

Tony Barthel

I mean, you go to a mattress store, and there's so many different types. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So anybody do anything where after you're done, you're like, ah, phooey.

Peggy Barthel

That was a bad idea. That was

Tony Barthel

a bad idea.

Mark Ferrell1

We've held off for the route and trying to see what kind of phooey y'all did.

Tony Barthel

That's a great idea.

Speaker 6

We got

Peggy Barthel

our list. We're gonna scratch off things people say

Tony Barthel

not to do.

Mark Ferrell0

That's good. Works bad. Yeah.

Speaker 6

I think

Speaker 9

everything we've done, we've been happy with.

Speaker 4

We hung little shoe racks on this the underside of the bed and on the side of the cabinet with, um, it's not Keban strips, but it's the

Speaker 6

the the

Speaker 4

adhesive patches. Okay. And they come in the heat. They will self remove, and they will take the surface right off. Oh, no.

Speaker 8

Oh, really?

Tony Barthel

Oh, man. That's not good. We have a bunch of those. So far, so good. But

Speaker 8

Yeah. Let's do it.

Peggy Barthel

Well, we don't put anything as heavy as shoes.

Tony Barthel

Yeah. No.

Peggy Barthel

It's hats. We have lightweight stuff, hats. Yeah.

Tony Barthel

Lots and lots of that.

Peggy Barthel

I use

Speaker 4

a lot of command strips, strips and those will work okay. The little pull tab thing, that'll work. They'll come off. But these are the ones, you know, the little round plastic things you peel it off and stick it up and Oh.

Tony Barthel

Yeah. Then then it peels off whatever's under it.

Speaker 5

Dawn, you need to tell what you did with your kitchen sink.

Speaker 7

Oh. Oh, yeah.

Peggy Barthel

What did you do to your kitchen sink, Don?

Speaker 5

Well, a lot of people have dealt with this.

Tony Barthel

All those sink dropped?

Mark Ferrell2

The sink dropped.

Peggy Barthel

Okay.

Mark Ferrell2

And Beth had told us that dirt happened. And before ours dropped, I took a putty knife and went around and found out about half of it was glued. Around one end was glued and a spot glue here. So I went in, used a putty knife, scraped it around, and got the sink down. Then I took it out and set it on top of the opening.

Mark Ferrell2

And there was a lot of glue on the, uh, composite sink, so I sanded it down real good, real fine sandpaper, got it all cleaned up. And now it sits on top, and all the plumbing all fits perfect. There's no changing of the plumbing or anything. It just all fits right in.

Tony Barthel

Good. So your sink is plastic or composite? It's a composite. Because some of them are, uh, stainless steel or at least look like that.

Mark Ferrell2

Stainless steel.

Tony Barthel

Yeah. I don't I don't get the appeal of an Yeah. That was not

Speaker 6

stainless steel. Yeah. I don't I don't get the appeal of an undermount sink. All I could think about is

Tony Barthel

but it's people are, oh, I love that undermount sink.

Speaker 5

Right. They

Speaker 8

all of them are dropped eventually.

Speaker 5

This looks so nice.

Mark Ferrell2

Yeah. The strap on a while, I had sticks underneath pieces of wood to help make sure it didn't drop, but then it got in the way of our storage. Yeah. So I came

Speaker 6

up with it and

Mark Ferrell2

took it out, set it on top. No problem at all. Everything fit perfect.

Speaker 8

So Glued

Mark Ferrell2

it in.

Mark Ferrell0

Your undermount sink is now a

Speaker 7

drop in? Yep.

Mark Ferrell2

Yep. Drop right on top. Didn't change anything. Didn't have to cut recut the hole or anything.

Speaker 6

So what

Mark Ferrell1

you're saying, it was the ridge of the sink after it fell?

Speaker 8

Yes. Okay.

Speaker 7

The the surround. The cleaned up.

Mark Ferrell2

The top part. You sanded it real real fine.

Mark Ferrell1

Glued up underneath. Barely.

Mark Ferrell2

It was glued up barely underneath.

Speaker 8

You figured it out. So many of those are dropping. Yeah. We had it. For it.

Tony Barthel

For those of you who don't know, we have a Facebook group, Rockwood mini light hyphen flagstaff micro light fan club, and we have, like, 12,000 people in there. And there was a time that the sinks were dropping out left and right, and my understanding is that, uh, glue supplier, their product didn't live up to what they claimed. Because you don't see it anymore, but like, well, yeah. You know, a a mod that Tony did, not this Tony, but the other Tony, I wanna hear about your roof.

Mark Ferrell0

Oh, so you started out with last year, we had a hailstorm.

Mark Ferrell2

Yeah.

Mark Ferrell0

Um, so on Saturday night, this one freak storm everything was north of us. One freak storm came from the west, and it put down golf ball sized hail. And the trucks all took a beating, but we didn't think that the trailers took much of a beating. It's more the tow vehicles all got in it. Well, I went on the roof.

Mark Ferrell0

Nothing was broken. The skylight was broke not broken. The air conditioner cover wasn't broken. Nothing. Fast forward 11 months later and Fred Schultz called me and said you need to go look at your roof again And it was just on the leading edge where the rubber wraps over to the side, and there were these little half moon cuts in it.

Mark Ferrell0

And we called the insurance company, and they said, yeah. You've got to have a claim because it's a through and through cut, and water will go down. And so, um, we found a company called Elite RV Roof and Collision, up in North Fort Worth, Texas, and they put the rhino lining roof on. Um, they took everything off the roof, everything, um, replaced any wood that was damaged. And then it's a coat of polyurethane, and then they actually spray the rhino lining on there 3 eighths of an inch thick.

Tony Barthel

Wow.

Mark Ferrell0

Yeah. It's it's thick.

Mark Ferrell2

Bring on the hell

Speaker 7

now, Yeah.

Tony Barthel

If if it starts to hell, I'm coming to your trailer.

Speaker 4

Right?

Mark Ferrell0

We've been through 2 rainstorms, and you can hardly hear it raining because the roof is so thick.

Speaker 7

Yeah. Wow.

Peggy Barthel

Now in a way, that's a little bit sad to me because I like it when it sounds like ping pong balls

Speaker 6

are coming on through.

Mark Ferrell0

We still

Speaker 7

don't know.

Speaker 5

So much. Yeah.

Mark Ferrell0

But But

Peggy Barthel

you have it on this slide. Okay. Actually, no

Mark Ferrell0

it's lifetime guaranteed. Transferable. So if we sold our trailer, the new owners get the lifetime guarantee. Um, there's no maintenance. I I use no dichlor, uh, nothing.

Mark Ferrell0

Uh, I don't have to touch it. Other take a garden hose and hose it off.

Speaker 6

Do you

Tony Barthel

know if it added any weight? £200. £200? Okay. £200.

Mark Ferrell1

Did you add it to the top of

Mark Ferrell0

the slide out as well? No. We did not put it on the slide out.

Speaker 8

It that is slide covered.

Mark Ferrell0

They they weren't in favor of

Tony Barthel

adding care.

Mark Ferrell2

Recommend that. We also

Speaker 6

have it.

Speaker 5

Yeah. We waited till Fred and Tony did theirs. And then you did

Speaker 7

yours. Work.

Peggy Barthel

Well, yeah. Like Aaron. Right? Wait and make sure it's gonna work

Tony Barthel

before you

Peggy Barthel

do it.

Speaker 5

Spray the bumper and then that front the

Peggy Barthel

grill on the front.

Speaker 5

Oh, You're a rock guy.

Tony Barthel

That Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6

From resting because we live on the coast and so salt.

Speaker 7

Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5

Where do y'all live? Lake Jackson.

Tony Barthel

Oh, okay.

Speaker 5

So Not as far as damage.

Peggy Barthel

Yeah. These guys

Mark Ferrell0

that that did it, this elite RV roof and collision, um, when they took our trailer apart, they number 1, they came and picked our trailer up

Speaker 7

and took Really? Out of the repair shop.

Mark Ferrell2

Nice. Um,

Mark Ferrell0

the the insurance company only wanted to pay $34100 for a total roof. And then when Elite called them, they were like, oh, yep. Okay. We'll pay the full thing. Now now we did pay the difference between the rubber roof and the the new roof, uh, the the Rhino roof, which was $37 a foot, and it's linear foot.

Speaker 7

Okay.

Mark Ferrell0

So that that wasn't that much. Um, but when they were taking taking it down, taking it apart, they broke the TV antenna. So they just called us and said, we broke the antenna. We're replacing it. And, you know, new antenna, RV I mean, uh, Wi Fi extenders, the whole 9 yards.

Tony Barthel

Wow. Okay.

Speaker 5

We were hoping they break ours because he didn't

Speaker 8

What was strange, that hailstorm. It didn't break any of the, uh,

Speaker 7

skylights, the

Speaker 8

air conditioning colors.

Peggy Barthel

It broke the

Speaker 5

um, the not the skylight, but the vent. The vent the cover The

Peggy Barthel

cover over the vent?

Speaker 5

We didn't

Speaker 9

know it with the fan.

Speaker 5

Until right before we took it to RV Elite. It rained. It was sitting in our driveway. We were ready to go someplace, and it rained. And we walked in the bathroom, and there was water on

Speaker 6

the floor. Oh, okay.

Speaker 5

Straight down. Luckily, it wouldn't come in that walls and stuff. But they told us there was a crack, like, that you could barely see someplace. They they found it right away. It's not

Tony Barthel

something you

Speaker 7

could find.

Tony Barthel

Well, that's not good because we're in a hailstorm the other day, and Peggy said, go up on the roof and see what you see,

Speaker 5

and I said, ah, the

Tony Barthel

the skylight is fine, it should be all okay, but now it

Speaker 6

makes me

Peggy Barthel

Now we've got it.

Speaker 6

Now it

Tony Barthel

makes me second guess.

Speaker 5

You'll find out tomorrow. Yeah. Really? All on

Speaker 9

the edge.

Peggy Barthel

Yeah. Like little crescents.

Speaker 7

Just tell

Speaker 8

me a drone for.

Peggy Barthel

A drone. Yeah.

Speaker 5

Right. Yeah.

Peggy Barthel

It is really high up on our shopping list. Well, the funny thing is, I always say if you wanna know the funny

Tony Barthel

thing is, I always say, if you wanna know the laziest way to accomplish a task, I am your man. So, like, inspecting the roof Yeah. I take that GoPro camera on a pole, and I shoot a video, and I can go in and zoom in and all of that stuff, and then I have a sequence. So I'm like, okay, the roof looked like that here. Now, 4 months later, whatever, it looks like this.

Tony Barthel

And if I'm like, oh, there's, you know, a problem, then I can

Speaker 7

Good idea.

Tony Barthel

So that's my lazy man tip for the The

Speaker 8

older you get, the less you want to get up there.

Mark Ferrell0

That's true. You should urge people to download not just the weather channel, but to pay and get a good radar app because we were sitting watching the movie, and we're watching the storms. The lightning and cured the thunder and the big clouds to the north of us. And then out of the blue on my radar app, one popped up to the west. And, you know, the color rations, it it went green, red, white, pink.

Mark Ferrell0

White and pink is hail. And we literally we all took off and hooked them, and we got back to our trailers.

Speaker 6

And, I

Mark Ferrell0

mean, the hail was here.

Speaker 5

Yeah. It was.

Mark Ferrell0

It was it was severe.

Mark Ferrell3

It had started to hail way before it started to rain.

Mark Ferrell0

Yeah. Yeah.

Mark Ferrell2

We were sitting

Speaker 8

in our trailer,

Mark Ferrell3

and it was like,

Speaker 5

bang. Bang.

Tony Barthel

Oh gosh.

Mark Ferrell3

I mean, it just came down. And it

Mark Ferrell0

was just hail.

Speaker 7

It wasn't raining at all. It was just hail. Wow.

Mark Ferrell0

Tony, his truck was 3 days old.

Tony Barthel

Oh, that's right.

Mark Ferrell0

Ours was 6 weeks old.

Tony Barthel

Yeah. This was its first trip. Right? Your truck?

Speaker 7

Yeah. 273 miles.

Peggy Barthel

Oh, no. $9,000 in the eyes.

Speaker 7

I didn't call the insurance company. I told them I had, uh, 2 things. I bought a new truck. Oh, congratulations. And, yeah, now I need to do a hail claim on it.

Speaker 7

Oh,

Speaker 5

boy. They we had

Peggy Barthel

to wait for the insure I mean, it was not

Speaker 5

not a problem, but they had to do all the paperwork.

Speaker 9

They had

Speaker 5

however many days to switch it over. Yeah.

Speaker 6

And they had

Speaker 5

to do all the paperwork to switch over the insurance before we could make the claim. Oh gosh.

Speaker 7

Man. We're bugging you.

Speaker 9

We're the biggest. New insurance in there.

Speaker 5

Took everything

Speaker 8

else. Yes. I Uh-huh.

Speaker 7

Took every house.

Speaker 6

Yes. I hear you.

Speaker 7

Took it.

Mark Ferrell2

You can't see any dents.

Speaker 7

Any Did

Tony Barthel

they have to take out any interior? Or was it Yeah.

Speaker 7

Oh, there's over 600 dents in the hood alone.

Speaker 8

Yeah. Oh, boy. Pull the interior. Can you do it all that way?

Mark Ferrell0

You you sit we went to the bathroom with our 2 dogs, brought the slide out on our trailer, and then went to the bathroom up there. Replaced it. And I stood there and watched with tears in my eye. Yeah.

Speaker 6

Hail. Just like

Mark Ferrell0

hating our truck. It didn't bust the windshield.

Tony Barthel

That's the amazing thing. Yeah.

Mark Ferrell0

And then, of course, we were all outside after it. And the funny thing is right here across from where y'all are at, there was 200 cub scouts camping in tents.

Speaker 7

Oh, boy.

Peggy Barthel

And so

Mark Ferrell0

it was like a

Peggy Barthel

kids.

Mark Ferrell0

City down here from all

Mark Ferrell

the Yeah.

Mark Ferrell0

Park rangers and people coming to check on the kids.

Mark Ferrell1

Oh, they earned their badges.

Speaker 9

They did.

Tony Barthel

Yeah. The the hell badge.

Speaker 5

But if it happens this year, we are going to pull our truck into the grass under the tree no matter what the

Speaker 8

park we

Speaker 5

are. What's

Speaker 7

that store? What's that store there? What if that they were getting at getting after you if you parked?

Speaker 8

So so they told

Speaker 7

you not to we

Mark Ferrell0

asked the the park host, um, there's there there might be hail tonight. Could could we put our trucks under the trees? And they looked at us and said, absolutely not. No vehicles on grass. So we all play by the rules.

Mark Ferrell0

Right? The next morning, the park coast truck is under the trees, and he got it stuck.

Speaker 6

Oh. Boy,

Mark Ferrell1

that karma came around. Yeah.

Tony Barthel

Did you guys all stand there and go? Oh, man. Yeah.

Speaker 8

That was a bad deal for hell because when I took mine into that paintingless dent place, they had guys there that had just come from down South Texas somewhere around A&M for a bad hailstorm. They're up here for this hailstorm. When they got through the FWS area, they all went to Denver for That big hailstorm.

Speaker 5

Oh, the insurance agents.

Speaker 8

The insurance the the dent people.

Tony Barthel

Is that that's probably where your brother had his your brother had his truck out in the hill.

Peggy Barthel

In Denver.

Tony Barthel

And he was with us on vacation, and he sees them apart, and it's like, uh, man.

Speaker 8

They sent 40 people to Denver. The hell, this company ID of Denver. Man. Well, then we know where to

Tony Barthel

go. Yeah. We have an end now.

Speaker 8

It's a big discount. Right?

Peggy Barthel

Do any of you have solar panels? And did you when the hail came?

Speaker 8

Fred does, but he's not here.

Peggy Barthel

Fred did. I don't think Fred had a

Speaker 5

VIN, though, did he?

Speaker 8

Not last year.

Peggy Barthel

Yeah. Oh, no.

Tony Barthel

Oh, yeah. That's what I I wonder because that whole roof is almost glass.

Peggy Barthel

Yeah. Our roof

Tony Barthel

is pretty protected by solar panels.

Speaker 7

Oh, okay. Yeah. I see. Yeah.

Speaker 5

Yeah. I

Tony Barthel

wonder how it would do.

Speaker 9

Didn't David Annette have solar panels they said didn't get affected? Mhmm. I've never read that.

Tony Barthel

David Annette.

Speaker 9

David Annette.

Mark Ferrell0

No. David Annette, they they a damper van. Exterior. And and their, uh, air conditioner cover got cracked at temperature.

Speaker 9

But not the solar.

Tony Barthel

No? That's impressive.

Mark Ferrell0

So if if you talk to Rockwood, would you ask them which brain surgeon came up with the idea of putting all the water connections right over the power

Speaker 5

connections? Yeah. Yeah.

Tony Barthel

It keeps it clean.

Mark Ferrell1

The part of Ohmslow there?

Speaker 5

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4

You know, it's interesting to hear things like that and the and the issues that, you know, I know the front windshield is a is a is a real sore spot. A 2015 has a nice cover that pulls

Speaker 8

down over

Speaker 7

the Yes.

Speaker 4

The 2015 has the water connections on the back and the power on the side. A 2015 has a top mount kitchen sink. So what am I missing?

Speaker 8

They all you gotta use do something new

Mark Ferrell0

to Yeah.

Speaker 7

To improve.

Speaker 8

Attract new, like

Speaker 9

Like putting glass in the oven doors.

Speaker 4

Yeah. Uh, 2015 has a metal oven door.

Speaker 9

I still do.

Peggy Barthel

I still do.

Mark Ferrell2

Tony, talk about

Speaker 7

the the, uh, solar. How much power do you get off of that, and how long can you like doodle with that, or is that really a big help?

Tony Barthel

Yeah. It's fantastic. So it's a 1000 watts of solar, and 400 amp hours of lithium battery. And I'll I'll be happy to show you guys all that, because I dig that stuff. The answer how long we can go off grid is it depends.

Tony Barthel

Like, today was cloudy, uh, where were we the other day? And it was still cloudy, and we still went up to a 100. Oh, was it Dave and Bev's?

Peggy Barthel

At Dave and Bev's. Bev's.

Tony Barthel

So we were at some friend's house, and we parked like on their front lawn for a few days in Oklahoma, and it was cloudy. And I was, you know, like, oh, I wonder what's gonna happen here. And we have a 12 volt fridge, and the 12 volt fridge will take about 60 to 80 amp hours over a 24 hour period. So you figure that it's a 400 amp hour battery, so about a 5th of that is just the fridge over 24 hours. So I was curious, how much is it gonna recover?

Tony Barthel

And it went back up to a 100 percent at night, even on a cloudy day. Now, from 80% where I woke up in the morning. So it recovered 20%. I don't you know, once it hits a 100 it stops. So how long we can boondock?

Tony Barthel

We the power is no longer the reason we come in. That system has just been bulletproof. We've been very pleased with it. It's maybe the best part of the whole trailer, quite honestly. So it's no longer power that brings us in from camping, it's now water.

Tony Barthel

Water is now the challenge.

Peggy Barthel

Our fresh water and our gray tank are the limiting factors now.

Tony Barthel

Right.

Peggy Barthel

Electricity is not. And by the way, Jim, thank you for asking that question, because now we put an ad. Yeah.

Tony Barthel

But also, we can run the air conditioner for depends on how much power we're getting in, but we can run it for 4 to 7 hours, depending on,

Speaker 5

you know Yeah.

Tony Barthel

Various circumstances, which is kind of impressive. So if you are boondocking, and it's kind of a hot, muggy day, you run it for a couple hours at night, and you're good.

Speaker 7

It has a soft start on it?

Tony Barthel

It does. Yeah. And that was part of standard.

Speaker 4

This is not aftermarket.

Tony Barthel

It's a system from Rockwood called the

Peggy Barthel

Power package?

Tony Barthel

The power package. Okay. I could look at the sticker.

Peggy Barthel

It's called the power package. Master vault. Master vault. Yes. So it is a package that is designed and built by ABC Upfitters, and you can go you can take yours in now and get it up fitted, or you can order them now with the power package installed during manufacturing.

Tony Barthel

So one of the unusual things about this system is it uses Mastervolt batteries, charge controllers, inverters, and Mastervolt is a company that's well known in the marine industry, because they tend not to fail. So it's not the cheapest stuff out there, but it it just works. I mean, it's it's really impressive. So

Mark Ferrell2

Lithium battery?

Tony Barthel

It's a single 400 amp hour,

Speaker 6

it's a big I'll show

Tony Barthel

it to you. And now they're putting 460 amp hour batteries in, so it's even more power. But, yeah, it's a it's a lithium battery.

Speaker 8

How much weight does all that add?

Tony Barthel

I have no idea. I suspect I suspect probably 2 100 to £250, but you figure there's no battery on the tongue.

Mark Ferrell0

That's right.

Tony Barthel

There's just that battery. And if you have 2 flooded batteries on the tongue, there's a £160. So I think the battery is not light, but I think that inverter and charge controller is also not light. Because it's it's like this big and like that thick, that thing.

Speaker 6

Have a

Mark Ferrell0

cover for your windshield? Yes.

Peggy Barthel

Yes.

Tony Barthel

Because there's already a crack in it.

Mark Ferrell0

Well So when we bought our trailer, we found a company that installs Kevlar. Oh. We have our windshield covered in Kevlar. Uh, transparent, but it's Kevlar. And it wasn't cheap.

Mark Ferrell0

It's $500. But the Norcom wood, it's worked so far.

Tony Barthel

Yeah. The the disadvantage, we have that, uh, YB Outdoors, and it's thick, and I like it because it's it has insulative properties.

Mark Ferrell0

Yes.

Tony Barthel

And you could take it off in theory, but no, you know, it's Velcroed on, so I don't think I would.

Peggy Barthel

We don't just because we don't wanna stress the Velcro too often. Somebody is it it wasn't someone I don't think that's here, but got a cover that is got you put magnets on the inside of the windshield? I

Speaker 6

saw that.

Mark Ferrell2

Yeah. Yeah. That's the

Tony Barthel

latest thing.

Peggy Barthel

I told Tony this morning I didn't go back and look to see if anyone actually said they've driven with that cover on.

Speaker 8

Yeah.

Peggy Barthel

Someone said, I wouldn't go 80 miles an hour with that. And I said, well, I'm going 80 miles an hour at all.

Tony Barthel

80 miles an hour towing?

Speaker 7

Like magnets. Wait. We have benches.

Mark Ferrell2

So I mean, the

Speaker 7

crystal wreath

Mark Ferrell3

you hang on a door with a

Peggy Barthel

little Oh. Uh-huh.

Speaker 6

And you

Mark Ferrell3

can hang a wreath on the outside. The magnets on the inside that hold it.

Speaker 6

Right. And

Mark Ferrell3

you put a Christmas wreath or something.

Peggy Barthel

That would make sense to advance.

Speaker 9

Yeah. Yeah.

Tony Barthel

Yeah. I think these magnets stick to the inside of the windshield.

Peggy Barthel

You stick them on the windshield.

Tony Barthel

And you know, not just magnetic, but with an adhesive.

Peggy Barthel

But I've seen too, the ones that are Kevlar, but then also just like the like holy, I can't think of what it's called, but like perforated or whatever mesh kind of, and they're pretty usually, and you can see out it. So this once in a while, we regret that we don't take our cover off because we can't see out.

Tony Barthel

Yeah, but all the other people in the campground are glad that they can't see out.

Peggy Barthel

They can't see in. So

Tony Barthel

it works out for everybody.

Peggy Barthel

But we know now we don't close the shade on the inside, so we can see the window. And every once in a while, I'll go to change to get ready for bed and go, oh, the window's open. No, it's not.

Mark Ferrell1

YB Outdoors has an option for a Velcro or snaps, and the snaps idea kind of made me nervous.

Tony Barthel

Yeah. I you know, they have very detailed instructions, and it's, you know, you really follow them, and we've had it since last year.

Peggy Barthel

We were in Mississippi last March, is when we put it on.

Speaker 5

So it's

Peggy Barthel

been on for more than a year.

Speaker 7

Over a

Tony Barthel

year, and it's still

Mark Ferrell1

And the sprinkler ones held on fine. It doesn't even move or budge.

Speaker 7

Yeah. Yeah.

Tony Barthel

Yeah. You have a camo one, so how do you see it?

Peggy Barthel

How do you even know it's there?

Mark Ferrell1

It's into the far woods.

Tony Barthel

Well, I guess that's pretty much what we have this week. We I really appreciate being able to come and join you all, and Yes. For your time, and and your great tips, and, uh, I guess with that

Peggy Barthel

Stressless camping.

Mark Ferrell

We hope you learned a lot, and had some fun and got some tips for your next stressless camping adventure. We're honored by your reviews on Apple Podcasts, which helps others find us too. Don't forget to subscribe so you won't miss out on the adventure, and we look forward to your joining us next week. Until then, happy camping.

Speaker 6

That's it.

Peggy Barthel

Thank you. Thank you.

Tony Barthel

Thank you. Thank

Speaker 6

you. That

Mark Ferrell

was great.

Tony Barthel

Okay. Now it's time for beer.

Speaker 7

No. I hit my head voice over.

Peggy Barthel

Good. Good for you.